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Re: [ga] List censorship and publications

  • To: GA <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] List censorship and publications
  • From: George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:48:04 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Kent,

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, kent@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> The mail server is different than the public web server;
> the web archives are
> generated on the mail server, and a cron job copies them to
> the external web
> server every two hours.  Average delay due to this is
> therefore 1 hour. 

Thanks for the technical explanation. Are you able to check how those settings 
might compare to other ICANN mail archives? For example the BC mailing list 
archive at:


seems to only lag by 15 minutes or so, in my experience. Perhaps that cron job 
(it's a different subdomain, i.e. forum.icann.org, vs. gnso.icann.org where the 
GA archives are located) is configured to run more often? If it didn't cause 
any issues with server load, it might help people who rely upon the web 
archives to adjust the cron job frequency.

> However, there are other things that can cause delays --
> ICANN uses a variety
> of anti-spam measures, including greylisting, which can
> cause delays, and
> also, email by it's nature has many other possibilities for
> delay.

I think it's the greylisting which has the biggest impact. I'm not sure if the 
greylisting is being done on the forum.icann.org mailing lists. When I send to 
the GA list, the lag is much greater than when sending to the BC list (usually 
I send to the BC list using Google servers (i.e. Google Apps for Domains), 
whereas I send to the GA list using Yahoo). I think Yahoo mail *does* include 
DomainKeys, so that could be added conceivably to the spam filtering to 
whitelist mails that do pass the DomainKeys test, to reduce lag (that test 
would need to precede the greylisting test).
> with obvious psychological problems.  They undermine
> and demean the extremely
> valuable contributions of serious longtime ICANN critics
> like Danny Younger,
> George Kirikos, and others. 
> (Just for the record -- I really respect the contributions
> of these critics,
> and sometimes I agree with them.  I believe that
> sentiment is shared by many
> people on the ICANN staff.)

Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully that lead to more positive "actions" by 
ICANN, though, in the future. I'm sure all the ICANN critics would love nothing 
more than to retire from the ICANN lists, once our job is done! :)


George Kirikos

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