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Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent Crispin

To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, oig@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent Crispin
From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:25:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; Of course your quite right here IMO and it seems in the opinion of 
others that have called this behavior</P>
<P>out for public review and particular legal review.&nbsp; As such I 
officially complain strongly to such errant and</P>
<P>most likely very serious breach of law accordingly and call upon the FTC 
and/or the USDOJ to take specific</P>
<P>and direct as well as immediate action accordingly.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker 
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Sep 12, 2009 2:45 PM <BR>To: Joe Baptista 
<BAPTISTA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
<JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, 
Kimberly.Peretti@xxxxxxxxx, avri@xxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri &amp; 
Glen &amp; Kent Crispin <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Avri,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>You can in no way deny "responsibility for this action". The tortious 
action is proven. The established responsibility is by law yours. The 
abridgement of the Right to Freedom of Speech that is clearly established 
through legal means and agreed to as part of a "compact" with the US government 
is serious.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>""Upon the adoption of this Transition Article, and until further action 
by the ICANN Board, the GNSO Council shall assume responsibility for the DNSO 
General Assembly e-mail announcement and discussion lists. </DIV>
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<DIV>XX5.9<BR><A href="http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#XX"; 
target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#XX</A><BR>--- On 
<B>Sat, 9/12/09, Joe Baptista <I>&lt;baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> 
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Joe Baptista 
&lt;baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri &amp; Glen &amp; 
Kent Crispin<BR>To: "Hugh Dierker" &lt;hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Cc: 
"Jeffrey A. Williams" &lt;jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, 
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, 
jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx<BR>Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 8:48 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv403130169>The same applies to my posts. Some are censored - some are 
slow to post. I would not be surprised if all of my posts were not distributed 
to the list - although they show up in the archives. I have seen this sort of 
censorship before. A BWG trick.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 9/12/09, <B class=gmail_sendername>Hugh 
Dierker</B> &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN> 
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<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
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<DIV>I just confirmed that my posts to the list are being completely 
censored.&nbsp; It would appear that any I send with the reference to Kent 
Crispin are auto snagged.</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/"; 
target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Just did a double check to make sure I was not being censored due to two 
total no-no's -- threatening legal and blatant libel.&nbsp; No, I guess having 
a Doctorate in Jurisprudentia tempers ones' language. Certainly my degrees in 
Philosophy and Public Safety and being a minister does not help any. Or maybe 
it is my licenses in Insurance and Security that make me circumspect.</DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps I should just go ahead and matriculate in psychology so I can 
better rate insanity?&nbsp;<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/11/09, Joe Baptista 
<I>&lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</I></B> 
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Joe Baptista &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] 
Re: Avri &amp; Glen<BR>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Cc: "Hugh Dierker" 
&lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;, <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Glen@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>Glen@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=icann-board@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>icann-board@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Date: Friday, September 11, 
2009, 6:12 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV>Jeff recent message to the GA - Jeff is still censored from the GA by the 
GNSO.&nbsp; Until Jeff is reinstated I will forward his 
messages.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 9/11/09, <B class=gmail_sendername>Jeffrey A. 
Williams</B> &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN> 
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<DIV>Dr. Joe and all,</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp; Thanks for the confirmation with respect to Eric.&nbsp; I already 
knew I was being yet again censored,</DIV>
<DIV>but was not yet given a reason.&nbsp; Such seems not only odd, but not in 
keeping with the MOU accordingly.</DIV>
<DIV>One of good conscience can only wonder if not be disgusted as to the 
effacacy of such a practice.<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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rgb(0,0,255) 2px solid"><SPAN>-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Joe Baptista 
<BR>Sent: Sep 11, 2009 8:17 AM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker <BR>Cc: GA , Jeff Williams 
<BR>Subject: [ga] Re: Avri &amp; Glen <BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN>I verified you are 
in fact being censored.<BR><BR>regards<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 9/11/09, <B class=gmail_sendername>Hugh 
Dierker</B> &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN> 
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<DIV>My posts to this list are again being filtered, censored and held until 
review.</DIV>
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<DIV>I must demand that you direct Kent Crispin to stop this practice 
immediately.</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Joe Baptista<BR><BR><A 
href="http://www.publicroot.org/"; target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>www.publicroot.org</A><BR>PublicRoot 
Consortium<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>The
 future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative &amp; 
Accountable to the Internet community 
@large.<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;Office:
 +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fax: +1 (509) 
479-0084<BR><BR>Personal: <A href="http://www.joebaptista.wordpress.com/"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.joebaptista.wordpress.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></SPAN>
<DIV>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 
294k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest 
freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the 
performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - 
Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and 
the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied 
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll 
Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. 
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good 
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail <A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Phone: 
214-244-4827<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR 
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Joe Baptista<BR><BR><A href="http://www.publicroot.org/"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.publicroot.org</A><BR>PublicRoot 
Consortium<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>The
 future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative &amp; 
Accountable to the Internet community 
@large.<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;Office:
 +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fax: +1 (509) 
479-0084<BR><BR>Personal: <A href="http://www.joebaptista.wordpress.com/"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.joebaptista.wordpress.com</A> 
</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR 
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Joe Baptista<BR><BR><A href="http://www.publicroot.org/"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.publicroot.org</A><BR>PublicRoot 
Consortium<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>The
 future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative &amp; 
Accountable to the Internet community 
@large.<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;Office:
 +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fax: +1 (509) 
479-0084<BR><BR>Personal: <A href="http://www.joebaptista.wordpress.com/"; 
target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.joebaptista.wordpress.com</A> 
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<P>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 
294k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest 
freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the 
performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - 
Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and 
the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied 
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll 
Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. 
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good 
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone: 
214-244-4827<BR></P></ZZZBODY><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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