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Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent Crispin
- To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent Crispin
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:57:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> Try three years + sense Ms. Michel's has posted anything on the
GA. I take that as an indication</P>
<P>that the GA is not one of her favorite forums. And yes quite right
that Ms. Michel's and Ester</P>
<P>go way back to the first two attempts at trying to create an "At-Large",
both of which were</P>
<P>dismal failures much along the skewed failure of the now highly censored
ALAC.<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Sep 15, 2009 6:59 PM <BR>To: Joe Baptista
<BAPTISTA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Jeffrey A. Williams"
<JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent
Crispin <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Joe,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best of days to you young fellow.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes I note with mild coureosity that <A
href="http://icannwiki.org/Denise_Michel";>http://icannwiki.org/Denise_Michel</A> has
not posted to the GA in the last 2 years.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes I note that <A
href="http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#XX";>http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#XX</A>
5.9 states clearly that the GNSO council has the helm here. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But please give this gal a ringy dingy as I note you, her and Ester Dyson
go back some years as old chums.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/15/09, Rod Beckstrom
<I><rod.beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Rod Beckstrom
<rod.beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen &
Kent Crispin<BR>To: "Joe Baptista" <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Hugh
Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Jeffrey A. Williams"
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Rod Beckstrom"
<rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx>, "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Suzanne Sene" <ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Glen de Saint Géry"
<Glen@xxxxxxxxx>, "jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx" <jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>, "Denise
Michel" <denise.michel@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009,
10:54 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv1280841148><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Joe,<BR><BR>I note that one of your previous
emails pointed to me and my role at ICANN. As Denise Michel handles GA
issues in her portfolio, I am copying her herewith so that you can be in
contact with her if you wish.<BR><BR>Warmly,<BR><BR>Rod<BR><BR><BR>On 9/12/09
8:48 AM, "Joe Baptista" <<A rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The same applies to my posts. Some are censored - some
are slow to post. I would not be surprised if all of my posts were not
distributed to the list - although they show up in the archives. I have seen
this sort of censorship before. A BWG trick.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe
baptista<BR><BR>On 9/12/09, <B>Hugh Dierker</B> <<A
rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>> wrote:<BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Joe,<BR> <BR>I just confirmed that my posts to the
list are being completely censored. It would appear that any I send with
the reference to Kent Crispin are auto snagged.<BR><A
href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/"; target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/</A><BR> <BR>Just
did a double check to make sure I was not being censored due to two total
no-no's -- threatening legal and blatant libel. No, I guess having a
Doctorate in Jurisprudentia tempers ones' language. Certainly my degrees in
Philosophy and Public Safety and being a minister does not help any. Or maybe
it is my licenses in Insurance and Security that make me
circumspect.<BR>Perhaps I should just go ahead and matriculate in psychology so
I can better rate insanity? <BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/11/09, Joe Baptista
<I><<A rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>From: Joe Baptista <<A
rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri
& Glen<BR>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <<A
rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Cc: "Hugh Dierker" <<A
rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>>, <A
rel=nofollow>rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A
rel=nofollow>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>, <A rel=nofollow>ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>, <A
rel=nofollow>Glen@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A rel=nofollow>icann-board@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A
rel=nofollow>jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 6:12
PM<BR><BR>Jeff recent message to the GA - Jeff is still censored from the GA by
the GNSO. Until Jeff is reinstated I will forward his
messages.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>On 9/11/09, <B>Jeffrey A.
Williams</B> <<A rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>>
> wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dr. Joe and all,<BR> <BR> Thanks for the
confirmation with respect to Eric. I already knew I was being yet again
censored,<BR>but was not yet given a reason. Such seems not only odd, but
not in keeping with the MOU accordingly.<BR>One of good conscience can only
wonder if not be disgusted as to the effacacy of such a
practice.<BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Joe Baptista
<BR>Sent: Sep 11, 2009 8:17 AM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker <BR>Cc: GA , Jeff Williams
<BR>Subject: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen <BR><BR>I verified you are in fact being
censored.<BR><BR>regards<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>On 9/11/09, <B>Hugh Dierker</B>
<<A rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A> <<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>>
> wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My posts to this list are again being filtered,
censored and held until review.<BR> <BR>I must demand that you direct Kent
Crispin to stop this practice
immediately.<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana,
Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
11pt"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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