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Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent Crispin

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri & Glen & Kent Crispin
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:57:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp; Try three years + sense Ms. Michel's has posted anything on the 
GA.&nbsp; I take that as an indication</P>
<P>that the GA is not one of her favorite forums.&nbsp; And yes quite right 
that Ms. Michel's and Ester</P>
<P>go way back to the first two attempts at trying to create an "At-Large", 
both of which were</P>
<P>dismal failures much along the skewed failure of the now highly censored 
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker 
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Sep 15, 2009 6:59 PM <BR>To: Joe Baptista 
<BAPTISTA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
<JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri &amp; Glen &amp; Kent 
Crispin <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Best of days to you young fellow.</DIV>
<DIV>Yes I note with mild coureosity that <A 
 not posted to the GA in the last 2 years.</DIV>
<DIV>Yes I note that <A 
 5.9 states clearly that the GNSO council has the helm here.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>But please give this gal a ringy dingy as I note you, her and Ester Dyson 
go back some years as old chums.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/15/09, Rod Beckstrom 
<I>&lt;rod.beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Rod Beckstrom 
&lt;rod.beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri &amp; Glen &amp; 
Kent Crispin<BR>To: "Joe Baptista" &lt;baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "Hugh 
Dierker" &lt;hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Cc: "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
&lt;jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "Rod Beckstrom" 
&lt;rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx&gt;, "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" &lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, 
"Suzanne Sene" &lt;ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "Glen de Saint Géry" 
&lt;Glen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;, "jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx" &lt;jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx&gt;, "Denise 
Michel" &lt;denise.michel@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 
10:54 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv1280841148><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear Joe,<BR><BR>I note that one of your previous 
emails pointed to me and my role at ICANN. &nbsp;As Denise Michel handles GA 
issues in her portfolio, I am copying her herewith so that you can be in 
contact with her if you wish.<BR><BR>Warmly,<BR><BR>Rod<BR><BR><BR>On 9/12/09 
8:48 AM, "Joe Baptista" &lt;<A rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt; 
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The same applies to my posts. Some are censored - some 
are slow to post. I would not be surprised if all of my posts were not 
distributed to the list - although they show up in the archives. I have seen 
this sort of censorship before. A BWG trick.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe 
baptista<BR><BR>On 9/12/09, <B>Hugh Dierker</B> &lt;<A 
rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Joe,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I just confirmed that my posts to the 
list are being completely censored.&nbsp; It would appear that any I send with 
the reference to Kent Crispin are auto snagged.<BR><A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/"; target=_blank 
 did a double check to make sure I was not being censored due to two total 
no-no's -- threatening legal and blatant libel.&nbsp; No, I guess having a 
Doctorate in Jurisprudentia tempers ones' language. Certainly my degrees in 
Philosophy and Public Safety and being a minister does not help any. Or maybe 
it is my licenses in Insurance and Security that make me 
circumspect.<BR>Perhaps I should just go ahead and matriculate in psychology so 
I can better rate insanity?&nbsp;<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/11/09, Joe Baptista 
<I>&lt;<A rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</I></B> 
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><BR>From: Joe Baptista &lt;<A 
rel=nofollow>baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Avri 
&amp; Glen<BR>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" &lt;<A 
rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Cc: "Hugh Dierker" &lt;<A 
rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;, <A 
rel=nofollow>rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
rel=nofollow>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>, <A rel=nofollow>ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
rel=nofollow>Glen@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A rel=nofollow>icann-board@xxxxxxxxx</A>, <A 
rel=nofollow>jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 6:12 
PM<BR><BR>Jeff recent message to the GA - Jeff is still censored from the GA by 
the GNSO.&nbsp; Until Jeff is reinstated I will forward his 
messages.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>On 9/11/09, <B>Jeffrey A. 
Williams</B> &lt;<A rel=nofollow>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
 &gt; wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dr. Joe and all,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp; Thanks for the 
confirmation with respect to Eric.&nbsp; I already knew I was being yet again 
censored,<BR>but was not yet given a reason.&nbsp; Such seems not only odd, but 
not in keeping with the MOU accordingly.<BR>One of good conscience can only 
wonder if not be disgusted as to the effacacy of such a 
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Joe Baptista 
<BR>Sent: Sep 11, 2009 8:17 AM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker <BR>Cc: GA , Jeff Williams 
<BR>Subject: [ga] Re: Avri &amp; Glen <BR><BR>I verified you are in fact being 
censored.<BR><BR>regards<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>On 9/11/09, <B>Hugh Dierker</B> 
&lt;<A rel=nofollow>hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
 &gt; wrote: <BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN 
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My posts to this list are again being filtered, 
censored and held until review.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>I must demand that you direct Kent 
Crispin to stop this practice 
immediately.<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Calibri, Verdana, 
Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 
<P>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 
294k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest 
freedom" -<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with 
the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of 
glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, 
L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L 
multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. 
Carroll Towing&nbsp; (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 
 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. 
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng.&nbsp; INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good 
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail <A 

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