RE: [ga] Re: Beauty beyond was;Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr. ...

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

HI Joe
 
Welcome back to the GA List!
 
Unfortunately, whilst performing my duties as List Monitor, I neglected to
inform the GA Secretariat of the date when you should have your posting
privileges re-instated.  Please accept my sincere apologies for this error
which resulted in your longer than anticipated absence. 
 
Regards
 
Debbie


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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joe Baptista
Sent: 02 August 2009 03:15
To: governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Eric Dierker; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA
Cc: Avri Doria
Subject: [ga] Re: Beauty beyond was;Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr.
...


I have been reinstated. I received some written gibberish from Avri this
morning and then a complimentary ICANN you back on the list from Glen de
Saint Géry - oley!

But I don't thing Jeff Williams has been added back to the list.

I just want to take a moment and thank you Eric for keeping this issue
alive. And now that i am back on the GA list where I belong I assure you I
will not let the issue die.

What these clowns have participated in under the aupices of a U.S.
government contract amounts to abuse and outright fraud. Shame.

24 hours to completly right this wrong. Avri if you please - initiate the
reinstatement of Jeff Williams who was also illegally removed from the GA.

Thanks in advance
joe baptista


On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Eric Dierker <cogitoergosum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



Dearest Avri,
 
Your wisdom is given away by your words. A mix in my head of Bruni, Theresa,
Sophia, and Golda.  You are as quick witted as ever Shakespeare could have
been and piercing of the heart as Cleopatra must have been.  You are a
person of great insight blended with passion and compassion.
 
Why then, when it comes to your actions in ICANN do you shrink like a waif
not yet convicted of the worth of your hearfelt knowledge? Your stated
disdain for the elites, by way of power, prestige and money do not jive with
your lapdog approach to the GNSO. I swear sometimes you act as one trying to
atone for guilt at not being worthy of your own opines.
 
Reinstate Joe and Jeff to the GA.  Make statements through actions of
inclusion of the unwashed. Do not be satisfied in knowing your own heart but
follow it in deed.
 
I am not ashamed of my affection for your brilliance and so any post to you
in private may be made public, it is out of respect I do not shout from
rooftops. From our first exchanges some years ago, I recognized and
respected your gifts, I wish only for you to capitalize on them. Clearly I
am a highwayman and rogue and not suited for association with one of your
position.
 
Eric

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx> wrote:



From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr. ...
To: "Governance/IGC List" <governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:29 PM



On 1 Aug 2009, at 20:14, Eric Dierker wrote:

> A wise Chief Justice of the US Supremes once pointed out "I do not know
the definition of obscenity, but I know it when I see it." (or some such
thing)

> Well I have just seen it again. The interchange between Doria and       .
Making disgustingly disparaging remarks
...
> That kind of hate speech should be censored here.

1 Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184, 197 (1964) - Associate Justice Justice
Potter Stewart  (never chief and i don't judge wisdom)

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I
understand to be embraced . . . [b]ut I know it when I see it . . . "[1]

and some other definitions from:
http://www.brainyquote.com/words/ob/obscenity195426.html

Obscenity is whatever happens to shock some elderly and ignorant magistrate.
Bertrand Russell

Obscenity is a cleansing process, whereas pornography only adds to the murk.
Henry Miller

Obscenity, which is ever blasphemy against the divine beauty in life, is a
monster for which the corruption of society forever brings forth new food,
which it devours in secret.
Percy Bysshe Shelley

Since obscenity is the truth of our passion today, it is the only stuff of
art - or almost the only stuff.
David Herbert Lawrence

The justices have constitutionally protected obscenity in libraries, filth
over cable television, and now unlimited internet pornography.
Phyllis Schlafly

You have to show violence the way it is. If you don't show it realistically,
then that's immoral and harmful. If you don't upset people, then that's
obscenity.
Roman Polanski

Obscenity is a moral concept in the verbal arsenal of the establishment,
which abuses the term by applying it, not to expressions of its own morality
but to those of another.
Herbert Marcuse

Commercial speech is like obscenity... we can't seem to define it, but we
know it when we see it.
Jef I. Richards

Sex and obscenity are not synonymous. Obscene material is material which
deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest.
William J. Brennan, Jr.


at the risk for further branding (and taring and feathering) i have always
been partial to Marcuse.

a.


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