[ga] Re: Beauty beyond was;Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr. ...

[Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have been reinstated. I received some written gibberish from Avri this
morning and then a complimentary ICANN you back on the list from Glen de
Saint Géry - oley!

But I don't thing Jeff Williams has been added back to the list.

I just want to take a moment and thank you Eric for keeping this issue
alive. And now that i am back on the GA list where I belong I assure you I
will not let the issue die.

What these clowns have participated in under the aupices of a U.S.
government contract amounts to abuse and outright fraud. Shame.

24 hours to completly right this wrong. Avri if you please - initiate the
reinstatement of Jeff Williams who was also illegally removed from the GA.

Thanks in advance
joe baptista

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Eric Dierker <cogitoergosum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Dearest Avri,
>
> Your wisdom is given away by your words. A mix in my head of Bruni,
> Theresa, Sophia, and Golda.  You are as quick witted as ever Shakespeare
> could have been and piercing of the heart as Cleopatra must have been.  You
> are a person of great insight blended with passion and compassion.
>
> Why then, when it comes to your actions in ICANN do you shrink like a waif
> not yet convicted of the worth of your hearfelt knowledge? Your stated
> disdain for the elites, by way of power, prestige and money do not jive with
> your lapdog approach to the GNSO. I swear sometimes you act as one trying to
> atone for guilt at not being worthy of your own opines.
>
> Reinstate Joe and Jeff to the GA.  Make statements through actions of
> inclusion of the unwashed. Do not be satisfied in knowing your own heart but
> follow it in deed.
>
> I am not ashamed of my affection for your brilliance and so any post to you
> in private may be made public, it is out of respect I do not shout from
> rooftops. From our first exchanges some years ago, I recognized and
> respected your gifts, I wish only for you to capitalize on them. Clearly I
> am a highwayman and rogue and not suited for association with one of your
> position.
>
> Eric
>
> --- On *Sat, 8/1/09, Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Obscenity was Re: [governance] Open Ltr. ...
> To: "Governance/IGC List" <governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 8:29 PM
>
>
> On 1 Aug 2009, at 20:14, Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > A wise Chief Justice of the US Supremes once pointed out "I do not know
> the definition of obscenity, but I know it when I see it." (or some such
> thing)
>
> > Well I have just seen it again. The interchange between Doria and       .
> Making disgustingly disparaging remarks
> ...
> > That kind of hate speech should be censored here.
>
> 1 Jacobellis v. Ohio, 378 U.S. 184, 197 (1964) - Associate Justice Justice
> Potter Stewart  (never chief and i don't judge wisdom)
>
> I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I
> understand to be embraced . . . [b]ut I know it when I see it . . . "[1]
>
> and some other definitions from:
> http://www.brainyquote.com/words/ob/obscenity195426.html
>
> Obscenity is whatever happens to shock some elderly and ignorant
> magistrate.
> Bertrand Russell
>
> Obscenity is a cleansing process, whereas pornography only adds to the
> murk.
> Henry Miller
>
> Obscenity, which is ever blasphemy against the divine beauty in life, is a
> monster for which the corruption of society forever brings forth new food,
> which it devours in secret.
> Percy Bysshe Shelley
>
> Since obscenity is the truth of our passion today, it is the only stuff of
> art - or almost the only stuff.
> David Herbert Lawrence
>
> The justices have constitutionally protected obscenity in libraries, filth
> over cable television, and now unlimited internet pornography.
> Phyllis Schlafly
>
> You have to show violence the way it is. If you don't show it
> realistically, then that's immoral and harmful. If you don't upset people,
> then that's obscenity.
> Roman Polanski
>
> Obscenity is a moral concept in the verbal arsenal of the establishment,
> which abuses the term by applying it, not to expressions of its own morality
> but to those of another.
> Herbert Marcuse
>
> Commercial speech is like obscenity... we can't seem to define it, but we
> know it when we see it.
> Jef I. Richards
>
> Sex and obscenity are not synonymous. Obscene material is material which
> deals with sex in a manner appealing to prurient interest.
> William J. Brennan, Jr.
>
>
> at the risk for further branding (and taring and feathering) i have always
> been partial to Marcuse.
>
> a.
>
>
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