Re: [ga] Kamusi.com Domain

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all,

  Yes, essentially this is a greed vs doing the right thing situation.

  This said than, one should not be or would be wise not to be
disuaded by a reasonable profit, yet to do so at the expense of
users and/or other registrants, and even future registrants under
the guise of providing a privacy service that has been gamed for the
purposes of Wharehousing of Domain Names for resale, surely
demonstrates one reason why Wharehousing and speculation of
Domain Names is a very questionable practice.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> Well this email settles everything. Personally I try (often fail) to
  lead most of my days by doing things that cause no harm to others.
  GoDaddy is in a very competitive game/business of making money. I
  imagine they usually try(often fail) to lead most of their days by
  doing things that make and then save money and then pass it on to
  investors. Hopefully they start each day figuring how they can do no
  harm to their investors. It looks like all the held names were
  triggered by registrants. It would also appear that most of these
  registrants are probably in the mass registration speculation arena.
  So it would appear that the DBP operates on the profit margins dropped
  by the greedy. Kinda like those 49ers that tunneled under saloons to
  get the gold that slipped through the cracks/floorboards into the muck
  and myre. While there is elsewhere a continuing debate regarding users
  vs. registrant constituencies this here seems to make the case for the
  immediate need of a users constituency. One has to ask though, Who is
  entitled to profit from the waste of another's greed? But I feel quite
  confident the reason ICANN does nothing about this process is that it
  is technically neither warehousing nor cybersquatting. It also
  technically appears to produce millions of yen.

  --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

       From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: RE: [ga] Kamusi.com Domain
       To: "Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:51 AM


       Hi Debbie. FWIW,

       GoDaddy.com is not cybersquatting. Domains By Proxy is an affiliate of
       GoDaddy.com, but provides its own customer support. This is no secret
       and is a fact we have been clear about in public and with ICANN. We
       offer Domains by proxy's private registration services at GoDaddy.com
       just like we offer any of our other products and services:
       http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/dbp/landing.asp

       Domains By Proxy (DBP) was formed in response to customer demand for
       privacy.  When a GoDaddy.com customer is registering a domain name, they
       may select the DBP service. DBP then becomes the registrant of record
       and DBP's contact information is used for the public Whois database. DBP
       then enters into a separate agreement with the customer wherein the
       customer retains all rights of domain name ownership.  If the customer
       should ever desire to become the actual registrant of the name, they
       simply have to cancel their DBP service and they automatically become
       the registrant of record. This is a part of every DBP customer
       agreement. In addition, DBP's agreement with its customers is also very
       strict regarding Spam, IP infringement, and other illegal acts:
       http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/LegalAgreement.aspx

       You should know that Go Daddy has no more interest in a name registered
       privately through DBP than it does any other non-private domain name
       registration.

       Best regards,
       Tim Ruiz
       Vice President
       Corp. Development & Policy
       The Go Daddy Group, Inc.

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       -------- Original Message --------
       Subject: [ga] Kamusi.com Domain
       From: "Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Date: Wed, January 21, 2009 11:14 am
       To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

       Hi

       As many of you know, The Kamusi Project is under the umbrella of the
       World
       Language Documentation Centre.

       It would appear that http://www.kamusi.com was purchased at around the
       time
       that the Director of the Kamusi Project started investigating domain
       names
       (1997). It has had a holding page up for longer than the Director can
       remember.

       These links make interesting reading:

       http://kamusi.org/en/new_domain_name

       http://whois.domaintools.com/kamusi.com

       Can anyone shed any light on whether GoDaddy (or a subsidiary) are
       cybersquatting 7 million names as reported?

       Thanks

       Debbie Garside
       Chief Executive Officer

       PS Kamusi is Swahili for dictionary

       The World Language Documentation Centre
       Corner House
       Barn Street
       Haverfordwest
       Pembrokeshire SA61 1BW
       Wales UK

       Tel: 0044 1437 766441
       Fax: 0044 1437 766173

       Web: http://www.thewldc.org

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