[ga] Re: [At-Large] FW: My comments on new gTLDs and the role of ICANN

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rudi and all,

  I also support Vittorio's plea, all be it at least 8 years late
in comming.  He is FAR from the first to be asking/demanding
ICANN respect small and medium sized business and non profit
interests as equal stakeholders.

Rudi Vansnick wrote:

> Dear Olivier,
> Dear colleagues,
>
> As Vittorio stated, and I have to congratulate him for his beautiful
> statement (which I support 200%), ICANN has to respect smaller
> communities. If the goal is Internet for everyone, why the price is in
> perspective of large organisations or communities ?
> Indeed, in the Guidebook we see fees as 185.000 $ and 75.000 $, prices
> several communities around the world can not afford.
> Moreover, 75.000 $ is not 5 % of revenue of a small gTLD ! Let's
> consider a small community willing to share among them the possibility
> of their own gTLD, having only 50.000 $ revenue, well 5% of that revenue
> is not 75.000 $ but only 2.500 $. So, it is in disproportion and
> somewhere that's what Vittorio and myself, are willing to get discussed
> in the very near future. I'm joining him in this perspective and will,
> as soon as I'm back from Tokyo, have another mail on this topic.
>
> Hope it becomes clear that, from ALAC's perspective, representing
> smaller communities, this is indeed a very important topic to get
> involvement of all our ALSes.
>
> Hope to read you soon.
>
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> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond schreef:
> > Hello Vittorio,
> >
> > your reasoning wrt costs is one which has been echoed by many
> > participants.
> >
> > However, have you read the document entitled "New gTLD Programme:
> > Draft Applicant Guidebook (Draft RFP), Explanatory Memoranda and
> > Supporting Documents"?
> > Do you disagree with the methodology described in the part of the
> > document entitled "Cost Considerations of the New wwgTLD Program"?
> > Of particular inteest, do you disagree with the diagram shown on page
> > 9 of the document?
> >
> > BTW I am entirely neutral on the matter. I can understand ICANN's
> > explanation for the high fees, but I also understand that for
> > applicants such as yourself, this is very expensive. As such, I fear
> > that there may not be any win-win position on this.
> >
> > O.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vittorio Bertola" <vb@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Sivasubramanian Muthusamy" <isolatedn@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] FW: My comments on new gTLDs and the role of
> > ICANN
> >
> >
> >
> >> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> So I wouldn't really generalize by saying that it is wrong on the
> >>>
> > part of
> >
> >>> ICANN to have decided to charge a fee. At the same time, ICANN
> >>>
> > could also
> >
> >>> consider either a case to case basis waiver of all or part of the
> >>>
> > fees, or
> >
> >>> even think of categories of fees for new domain names - for
> >>>
> > instance
> >
> >>> commercial corporations with a commercial domain name allocation
> >>>
> > business
> >
> >>> plans charged a higher fee, non-profits a subsized fee or a fully
> >>>
> > waived
> >
> >>> fee.
> >>>
> >> I think that this would be a good solution, but let me make one more
> >> point: these fees really seem to be artificially high, much higher
> >>
> > than
> >
> >> the actual cost of evaluating the applications ($185'000 * 500
> >> applications = $92.5 million; the cost of processing application is
> >> almost entirely made by people's time to examine them; with $92.5
> >> million, even in developed countries, you can hire 2000 people for a
> >> year, at $46'250/person/year, or 1000 people at $92'500/person/year;
> >>
> > do
> >
> >> you really need all those people??)
> >>
> >> I wouldn't really say that we need ICANN to find subsidies for
> >> non-profit applications - I would say that we just need ICANN to
> >>
> > keep
> >
> >> the fees strictly equal to actual and direct costs, and IMHO the fee
> >> would be much lower.
> >>
> >> Ciao,
> >> --
> >> vb.                   Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu
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