[ga] Re: [At-Large] DIRECTI Demands Takedown of KNUJON Post

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Danny and all,

  Well I disagree of course.  Also see:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=infosecurity.us
also see:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?formaction=DNSLOOKUP&name=infosecurity.us&type=A&server=&detail=0

Not even listed!  Hummmm? No authoritative name server?  Hummm again!
 And still Directi.com seems to have no SPF record. see:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=Directi.com&token=03d021f32671958b2ef216820022b019

  That's a no no, Bhavin. >:(  So clean that up please.

  And of course, infosecurity.us Whois shows that Godaddy is their
registrar.  How unsurprising.  See:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=infosecurity.us&server=&email=on&token=03304237286f945f2c327e82044a2019

  Seems that there are also som problems with the TTL IP address as well.
See:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=209.62.85.50&token=030042f360a791d324a2298a0b6ba019

a frequent listed spammer.  Bad form there!  >:)

  From my own point of view and given this evadence, seems to be that both
infosecurity.us and
Directi.com should be taken down as both DN's represent a clear and present 
danger
to users.

  Ergo, I am having even more problems with the varacity of Mr. Turakhia's 
request
and
statements accordingly.

Danny Younger wrote:

> Source:  http://infosecurity.us/?p=1105
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 01:09, Bhavin Turakhia <bhavin.t@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Hi Marc
> We came across your article on http://infosecurity.us/ based on Knujons
> factually inaccurate and baseless report. Directi is not linked with any of
> the activities described in that report and Knujon, in their research have
> never bothered to get their facts straight from either ICANN or us. The
> article you publish is false and defamatory and hence I urge you to take it
> down immediately.
> Feel free to connect with me for any clarifications - my cellular number is
> <<REDACTED>> and I will be happy to share the actual facts with you -
> something that Knujon has not bothered to do so far. Find below our email to
> Knujon concerning the gross inaccuracies in their article
> Warm Regards
> Bhavin Turakhia
> Founder, Chairman & CEO
> Directi
> T: +91-22-66797600
> M (IN): +91 <<REDACTED>>
> â??-
> Dear Garth (from Knujon),
> This is with regards to the numerous articles on your website www.knujon.com
> that frivolously implicate the Directi Group. Before I move to the
> specifics, Id like to comment on the challenge youâ??ve thrown open to us, to
> take a lead in the endeavor of suspending every illicitly run domain name.
> Please understand that Directi continues to be one of the most proactive
> Registrars today in terms of combating abuse and implementing strict AUPs
> and we have a significant investment in terms of manpower and processes to
> achieve just this. We do so, not because were contractually obligated, or to
> protect our own business interests, but because we sincerely believe in the
> ideology of making the internet a safer and more secure medium for
> conducting business. Its really unfortunate that your analysis misrepresents
> the details, and conveniently ignores all of the active measures we take
> regularly against spamming, phishing and other forms of abuse activity on
> the internet. As a matter of fact, we have a ZERO tolerance policy towards
> unscrupulous activities, and therefore extremely shocked to learn about the
> baseless allegations made in your report.
>
> Given below, is a list of all the false information, conclusions and
> accusations that you have repeatedly made about our organization:
>
> 1.     EST is NOT affiliated to the Directi Group in any way: EST just
> happens to be one of the several thousand service providers that use our
> technology to provide domain registration services. Therefore all of the
> claims that EST is a part of our Group is grossly incorrect.
>
> 2.     Your claim that the accredited companies we own are: a) Phantom
> Registrars (ex: Jumbo Names) that are not incorporated or Do Not Really
> Exist and b) somehow involved in supporting the fake pharmacy business in
> some way, is not only grossly incorrect, but also seriously defamatory. You
> may not be privy to the strategic reasons why several of the top web
> services cos. need to invest in multiple registrar companies. However, there
> is absolutely no substance in suggesting that these companies are somehow
> involved in illegal activities. Not only do these registrars operate
> legitimately, but they also implement the strict AUPs for all sponsored
> domain names.
>
> 3.     You claim that the Directi Group is somehow closely linked with
> Atrivo, which probably is a false conclusion drawn from pt. 1. above.
>
> 4.     There are several other domain names that you have listed for various
> issues - software piracy, for instance - and claim that they are privacy
> protected. These domain names and their sponsoring registrar have not used
> privacy protection services for several months now; it is unfortunate that
> you did not choose to verify your data before making these accusations.
>
> 5.     The statement â??While Directi claims they will suspend illicit
> domains, KnujOn has found on many occasions Directi sponsored domains being
> removed temporarily only to be restored after a brief period with the same
> contentâ?? is incorrect, but we do acknowledge a technical lapse that may have
> led you to believe this. The domain names that youâ??ve listed were not
> intentionally restored, but did not get suspended in due process because of
> a technical error. When vigilant netizens alerted us about the situation,
> the domain names were suspended immediately.
>
> 6.     The statement â??If a consumer complains to
> Directi/PublicDomainsRegistry about these sites they simply direct them to
> the ISP host that serves the content. If and when the site content is closed
> by the ISP host, Directi/PublicDomainsRegistry just helps them set up at a
> new IP.â?? is baseless and seriously defamatory. We do not condone any abusive
> behavior using domain names registered through us, much less facilitate it.
> There are cases where we forward complaints to the host to pursue in
> accordance with their AUP, but in no circumstance do we enable purported
> abusive registrants to setup in any fashion.
>
> 7.     On several prior instances, we have attempted to explain to your
> organization the motives and mechanism behind Privacy Protection as a
> service. Privacy Protect isnâ??t intended to harbor miscreants, but to protect
> genuine domain owners from them. This service, provided through a network of
> registrars, is essentially free and has no affiliation with any domain names
> that use it.
>
> 8.     Also, as a Registrar, we must categorically state that we have no
> association with the domain names registered through us. The insinuation
> that we as a registrar benefit in any form through abusive domain names is
> grossly incorrect; on the contrary, we invest considerable resources toward
> mitigating such abuse of our services.
>
> 9.     During the Prescription Addiction Radioshow, you claimed that the
> registrar community is unable to effectively police illegal activities and
> hence most registrars are in violation of the ICANN RAA. This is factually
> incorrect since the job of policing the internet cannot be the sole
> responsibility of registrars, and the Registrar Accreditation Agreement
> doesnt state any such obligation either. Most registrars, purely out of
> moral reasons, build AUPs to ensure that they proactively prevent their
> services from being used for any illegal activity.
>
> Based on all of these false assumptions, misrepresentations and factual
> inaccuracies, you have referred to our organization as beastly, rogue,
> irresponsible, immoral and a supporter of the illegal narcotics industry. I
> hope you understand that this sort of frivolous victimization and public
> abuse is intolerable for our organization, and always tackled with utmost
> severity. However, since we believe that your intentions are not wrong, we
> would like to resolve this amicably by requesting all necessary corrections
> to the information published. We would also need a public clarification
> which explicitly states that the Directi Group is in NO WAY harboring or,
> being in any way involved, in any form of illicit activity.
> >
> On another note, I request you to understand the limitations registrars face
> in tackling these issues. Despite having a dedicated abuse complaints
> processing team, it is impossible for us to deploy the necessary resources
> and expertise to manually authenticate the legal status of each of the 4
> million + sponsored domain names. A false positive could lead to a
> significant loss for an innocent customer, for which we will be squarely
> responsible. Things get even more difficult when other registrars that use
> our platform, are less sensitive towards their moral responsibilities. Sure
> wed like to pull the plug and permanently close our business with them, but
> how does one protect the several thousand innocent website owners that also
> happen to use their services?
>
> I believe you understand as well as we do that a true cleanup process
> requires the concerted involvement of several industry participants
> including ICANN, registries, brand owners, law enforcement agencies and
> registrars. You can be assured that from a registrar standpoint we continue
> to extend our full cooperation to the community at all points in time. We
> have always taken this issue seriously and will always continue to do so.
>
> Well also be glad to clarify your doubts on the above mentioned facts, over
> a conference call which can include the relevant people from our side. Were
> open to a constructive dialogue with you, and are all ears to any specific
> suggestion that you may have for us. If youd like that, do provide us with
> an appropriate time and number on which you can be reached.
>
> Considering the defamatory nature of the content in your posts and the
> inaccuracy of several accusations, we hope that the requested corrective
> measures will receive utmost priority and reflect immediately on your
> website.
>
> Best Regards,
> Sandeep Ramchandani
> Strategic Partner Manager  The Directi Group
>
>
>
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