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RE: [ga] Domain Tasting Reopened for Public Comments

  • To: "'Dominik Filipp'" <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>, <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <nhklein@xxxxxxx>, <carlos.souza@xxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] Domain Tasting Reopened for Public Comments
  • From: "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:37:35 +0200

I was just noting that you did tell the NCUC representatives that the GA has
a position, while in reality this is not supported by facts.
Maybe this is the main reason why the GA is not taken seriously, and the
top-down vs. bottom-up has very little to do with it.

Cheers,
Roberto

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dominik Filipp [mailto:dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 06 May 2008 12:31
> To: Roberto Gaetano; robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; nhklein@xxxxxxx; 
> carlos.souza@xxxxxx
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] Domain Tasting Reopened for Public Comments
> 
> Roberto,
> 
> They are those regularly contributing to the GA who are not 
> addicted to personal career, financial interests, benefits or 
> false timid loyalty.
> No, you have not missed anything. Neither a straw poll nor a 
> common decision has been, unfortunately, issued yet.
> 
> If they were they would be ignored much like all others in the past.
> That is the main reason why many formerly active contributors 
> are feeling frustrated and are not willing to participate on 
> the game played on the public.
> 
> By the way, the only official relevant straw poll results 
> gathered so far at GNSO having gained a majority (110 votes, 
> 64%) votes in favour of the AGP elimination have been 
> similarly brushed away, not worth mentioning in the Final 
> Report. Do you really think you would be interested in a 
> straw poll conducted on the GA?
> 
> I just want ICANN to be honest and say it in fact prefers the 
> top-down instead of the bottom-up. And, that public input can 
> be prospectively considered at sole discretion of the staff 
> and the board. Get rid of all those core values related to it 
> and that's it. It would be clear and fair. I would accept it. 
> I would say ok, bye-bye, and would leave ICANN definitely. 
> But please do not play (I mean all ICANN staffers here) that 
> transparent game on us. It is already embarrassing.
> 
> ICANN needs self-confident people in constituencies who are 
> not frightened and scared of expressing and standing for 
> their own opinions.
> Do not mistake compromise for backdown. A compromise is made 
> as a result of proper deliberation on reasonable and valid 
> arguments presented by constituencies and public input on 
> equal basis. How can we be deliberating on something that was 
> excluded from discussion from the very beginning?
> 
> Roberto, you are at the second highest position at ICANN. Get 
> involved in the increase of the public participation if, of 
> course, you find it important. ICANN has been at crossroad 
> for some past years; either it will follow the existing 
> hidden top-down model or try making it an open organization 
> with influential public participation. You can influence it.
> 
> Dominik
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:roberto@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:48 PM
> To: Dominik Filipp; robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; nhklein@xxxxxxx; 
> carlos.souza@xxxxxx
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] Domain Tasting Reopened for Public Comments
> 
> Dominik Filipp wrote:
> 
> >
> > We on the GNSO GA, however, believe the motion is insufficient and 
> > still vulnerable to possible abuse.
> 
> We who?
> 
> If there was some decision in this sense, or at least a straw 
> poll, I missed it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Roberto

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