[ga] Response to Darlene's animosity to:Re: [At-Large] Motion to get the list back on topic

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Darlene and all my friends,

  I always moderate myself.  Sorry if you are not satisfied
with my own brand of moderation. I feel your frustration
but ethically I am compelled to respond.

  However I am sorry to read that Canada is the 3rd worst
country of oragin of spam.  As you seem to be in the
Education field in your home country, Canada, perhaps
you could address some of your efforts and professional
time in educating your fellow Canadians in the interest
of them reducing or eliminating Spam?  >:)

I am not a STAFF member of the ALAC and cannot be as such
would be a Conflict of interest.  I have joined the ALAC as is
evident in my list subscription to this list forum accordingly.
I am also a member of the NCUC as well as the BC, though
I personally am not a regularly active member of either.
I am also a member of the GA, and EFF as well.  So as
far as I know, or is documented on ALAC web pages and
in accordance with the MOU, and any and all users are free to
join of their own free will.  So as such, I have done so.

  As spokesman for our organization, all posts going to me
or the Email address for this forum are sent to all of our members
accordingly.  They have long now desired me to stay on as
their spokesman and to reflect their views as Users and
registrants.  I endeavor to do so and have sense 1998.  I shall
continue to do so as long as our members wish for me to do
so.

  I see no rules regarding cross posting on the ALAC main
web site or any of the ALAC's web site links.  If I missed
such, please provide the link and voting record of such.  I
also noticed that the ALAC is not generally supported by the
GAC yet and is not registered with the FEC or FTC either.

  I am indeed sorry you are not my friend.  But of course that is your
choice, and I do not hold it against you in any way.  Your or anyone's
opinion is as important to myself and our INEGroup members irregardless
of your seeming animosity.  However your or anyones elses opinion
and/or views are no more improtant than any others either.  All of the
internet community should be friendly in the spirit of the fellowship of
man.  And again, I an indeed saddened you seemingly do not share
that fellowship.  Maybe someday you will!  >:)  Hope springs eternal....

"Thompson, Darlene" wrote:

> You are a "member of the ALAC"???  In what capacity?  What is your
> title?  This is certainly news to me.
>
> And, I'm sorry, but we aren't just looking at a few disgruntled parties
> but an entire community that is tired of your multiple postings, cross
> postings, and off-topic postings.  When one person is responsible for
> over 40% of the postings on one list then there is obviously a problem.
>
> I, too, am not your friend and wish to see this cease.  If you cannot
> moderate yourself, then accept moderation from someone else.
>
> Darlene
>
> Darlene A. Thompson
> Community Access Program Administrator
> Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
> c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
> Iqaluit, NU  X0A 0H0
> Phone:  (867) 975-5631
> Fax:  (867) 975-5610
> dthompson@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeffrey A.
> Williams
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:25 PM
> To: John Levine
> Cc: ALAC
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Motion to get the list back on topic
>
> John and all my friends,
>
>   ALS's do not have accredited groups from the documentation
> currently available.  So, no INEGroup is not and cannot be thus
> accredited as Jacqueline seems to be indicating.  However
> I am a member of the ALAC and also spokesman for INEGroup,
> and will likely remain so for the forseeable future.
>
>   However INEGroup is registered with the federal registry, and
> the FEC and has been sense 1998.  And our membership is
> growing!  >:)  All of our members whom elected me as spokesman
> are users as well as Domain Name registrants.  Ergo as spokesman
> and as a ALAC member our voices, opinions are expressed through
> myself or independantly as they apply to only myself accordingly.
>
> John Levine wrote:
>
> > > From the ALS listing on alac.icann.org, INEGroup is not an
> accredited ALS.
> >
> > Of course not, since it doesn't exist in the reality-based world.
> >
> > > The ALAC rules exist and the Chair has indicated that it will be
> > > considered, so I look forward to the ALAC decision, and hopefully a
> more
> > > streamlined and productive list with fewer distractions.
> >
> > I certainly hope so.  We have literally decades of experience with
> email
> > discussion lists, and one of the hard-won lessons is how easily lists
> can
> > be wrecked by one or two disruptive people.  After trying every
> imaginable
> > alternative, it's always become clear that there's only one solution,
> > which is to remove the disruptive parties.
> >
> > It's much easier in this case because the parties in question have a
> > multi-year history of doing exactly the same thing to one list after
> > another.  If you don't believe me, look at the archives at the
> At-Large
> > Study Committee list in 2001-2002:
> >
> > http://atlargestudy.org/forum_archive/index.shtml
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxx, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for
> Dummies",
> > Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com,
> ex-Mayor
> > "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
> >
> >
>
> Regards,
>
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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> Updated 1/26/04
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>
>

 Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My Phone: 214-244-4827