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RE: [ga] ICANN, TWNIC Host "Toward the New Era of Internet"- IDN Key topic

  • To: "'Andy Gardner'" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'ga the DNSO'" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] ICANN, TWNIC Host "Toward the New Era of Internet"- IDN Key topic
  • From: "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:55:23 +0200

I am not saying you are wrong, I am just expressing my opinion, which is
that the perception of most people, including probably all those who do not
use latin scripts, would rate differently the addition of a handful of
diacritical character to the standard latin script a different thing than
introducing a completely different script.
You might be "technically" right, insofar a very limited set of extension to
the standard character set is anyway a progress and formally an IDN, but my
guess would be that a Japanese would perceive the addition of diacritical
latin characters to the set as by and large irrelevant.

Anyway, I hope that at least we agree on the fact that the introduction of
IDN TLDs would be a much welcome step further. And to the parts of the world
that will be more impacted by that step, this improvement is far more
important than the QI of ICANN people.

So maybe in our disagreement we might have some common view.

Cheers,
Roberto



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Gardner
> Sent: 27 September 2007 21:03
> To: ga the DNSO
> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN, TWNIC Host "Toward the New Era of 
> Internet"- IDN Key topic
> 
> 
> 
> For the record, not all IDN's have to have non-ASCII 
> characters in the TLD field to be "internationalised".
> 
> Is müller.de not an IDN? What more needs to be done to it?
> 
> I stand by my remarks.
> 
> On Sep 27, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> 
> > Andy,
> > For the record, I am another one of those idiots who think that a 
> > domain name is not internationalized if only one part of it is.
> > Cheers,
> > Roberto
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Gardner
> >> Sent: 25 September 2007 19:46
> >> To: ga the DNSO
> >> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN, TWNIC Host "Toward the New Era of
> >> Internet"- IDN Key topic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes I know that.
> >>
> >> Show me what part of the press release mentions anything 
> about TLD's 
> >> rather than IDN in general?
> >>
> >> The way it's worded, to everyone who's known about IDN's 
> for years, 
> >> it makes Dr. Twomey look like an idiot.
> >>
> >> Intentional?
> >>
> >> They should correct it and post an update, that 
> technically incorrect 
> >> quote is appearing all over the place.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >>
> >>> Andy,
> >>>
> >>> IDN names at the second-level have been around for quite 
> awhile but 
> >>> not at the top-level.  The focus now is introducing them at
> >> the top-
> >>> level so that it is possible to have an IDN.IDN name 
> instead of an 
> >>> IDN.ASCII name.
> >>>
> >>> Chuck Gomes
> >>>
> >>> "This message is intended for the use of the individual or
> >> entity to
> >>> which it is addressed, and may contain information that is
> >> privileged,
> >>> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any 
> >>> unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly
> >> prohibited.
> >>> If you have received this message in error, please notify sender 
> >>> immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Gardner
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:14 AM
> >>>> To: ga the DNSO
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN, TWNIC Host "Toward the New Era of
> >>>> Internet"- IDN Key topic
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 24, 2007, at 5:12 PM, 
> GNSO.SECRETARIAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "IDNs are going to change the face of the Internet when
> >>>> they arrive -
> >>>>> it will give people the chance to register domain names
> >> with their
> >>>>> names in their languages," Dr Twomey added. "ICANN is about
> >>>> to launch
> >>>>> a technical evaluation of the impact IDNs will have, and if
> >>>> all goes
> >>>>> well internationalized domain names could be available
> >> sometime in
> >>>>> 2008."
> >>>>
> >>>> When they arrive?
> >>>>
> >>>> Haven't IDN's been available since 2001?
> >>>>
> >>>> Who at ICANN is responsible for fact checking these 
> press releases?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> 





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