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RE: [ga] Election of Chair

  • To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] Election of Chair
  • From: "Dominik Filipp" <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:38:29 +0200

Hi Eric,
back from holiday I am just looking through a pile of unread posts to
get the picture. I'm sorry about not having participated more in the
past due to my business engagement, but that's how it goes sometimes.
I have also noticed some unpleasant moments within the GA list and
therefore I second to your motion to get back to deliberations and
discussing real issues as we used to deal with before. It is important
to calm down the discomfort within the GA and to get a breath of fresh
air in the shape of doing a reasonable work on issues.

As for the participation on outside lists, well, it might seem to have
proven to be an error at first glance but on the other hand it also
indicates a more subtle problem worth of noticing. It seems to be more
meaningful to send merit contributions to a specific list focused solely
on a given issue where I can expect reasonable response or discussion,
not burdened with somewhat gloomy atmosphere here in the GA where a
merit response can hardly be expected. I, nevertheless, believe this is
just a temporary problem that will gradually fade out.
But there is also another point here, maybe even more important than the
previous one. The outside lists are well organized and everyone can get
quickly oriented what to do and where to go. If I want to participate I
just simply scan the list of open issues, find one I am interested in
and start sending posts to the respective work group/email address.
Simple, straight and clear. I don't know what is the actual status of
our WGs but to get further with the progress we could get inspired by
I guess the simple plain GA list is advantageous in that all
issues/topics are clearly visible as a whole. That is why I personally
prefer this structure to various WGs scattered elsewhere, which requires
remembering adresses, somewhat ponderous navigation to them, etc. To
take maximum from the ICANN's specific list structure I would instead
fix the subject naming structure helping clearly describe and navigate
to issues of interest. This would allow for possibility to filter
incoming mails into specific private mail subfolders alongside of
keeping the overall picture of all what is happening on the list. This
could also increase the operability and unification of resulting

Last but not least, I am happy you have gladly accepted the nomination
for the upcoming Chair position election and I can't but agree with
Debbie's words about your outstanding work you have done so far for the
GA, particularly, your tremendous and unflagging effort to keep the
crumbling GA list together and to make it work more effectively.




From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Hugh Dierker
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:31 PM
To: Prophet Partners Inc.; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Election of Chair

Dear all,
I had hoped to be past this phase of rules and have a full set of
positions filled by this time. What can I say, it takes a little longer
to adopt founding documents than I thought.
Creating and exercising reasonable controls on the list is a great
Now we are faced with a dwindling fine group of people that are so
disenfranchised that apathy would be a positive spin on their outlook.
This clearly has resulted in the lack of participation we have today. (I
am pleased to note it is not due to harassment.) I am afraid yet
heartened that this can be cured by a running track record. No amount of
cheerleading and cajoling will move this war weary crowd. So that what
we should do, is put one foot infront of the other, and make a track
that others can follow.
IDNO and IU. These concepts must be brought to the forefront and lifted
as high as they can go. I see pros and cons of starting with either one.
But it was a founding factor in beginning this GA and it cannot be
ignored. The aptitude and skill with which it is presented will have to
be spot on and support must be clear and convincing from the bottom up.
And then it is going to have to be bulldogged right on through with no
"skipping over" for an answer. Capture is not an option. I do believe
that with or without restructuring this can be done, but not for free.
It will take hours of concerned contributors' time.
RAAs, WHOIS, gTLDs etc. etc. Have been dealt with by the GA in a
reactionary mode. We have contributed greatly to outside lists and
groups and forces. This has proven to be an error. Our voices are
splintered and cast into the wind. We should begin our own deliberations
here on clear issues and winnow down our positions to matters of real
interest to us and set them forth with one large voice.
I want these things to come to pass. And so I gladly accept the
Nomination and Second to the Chair of the GA.

"Prophet Partners Inc." <Domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        Hi Debbie,
        I agree that Eric has been doing a wonderful job and I'll second
the motion 
        for Eric to be reelected Chair for a consecutive term.
        Prophet Partners Inc.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Debbie Garside" 
        To: "'GA'" 
        Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:05 PM
        Subject: [ga] Election of Chair
        > Hi All
        > It would seem that there is very little interest in
electioneering from GA
        > members and I must conclude that this is because our current
Chair has 
        > done
        > and is doing sterling work.
        > I would like to formally nominate Eric to be re-elected as
        > Best regards
        > Debbie
        > Debbie Garside
        > Managing Director
        > ICT Marketing Ltd
        > Corner House
        > Barn Street
        > Haverfordwest
        > Pembrokeshire SA61 1BW
        > Wales UK
        > Tel: 0044 1437 766441
        > Fax: 0044 1437 766173
        > Web: http://www.ictmarketing.co.uk


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