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RE: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction

  • To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "GNSO Council List" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction
  • From: <policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 06:54:58 -0700
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font-size:10pt;"><div>Thanks James. &nbsp;Great seeing you and everyone else 
this past week. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Just an FYI for those not 
participating in WS2-Jurisdiction, this ICANNxit idea has been pushed very hard 
by Parminder and others on the list. &nbsp;As we all know, the accountability 
reforms of WS1 are all predicated on California law, so this idea seems outside 
of the scope of WS2 since WS2 wasn't meant to dismantle WS1. &nbsp;Further 
complicating things, there is now a crowd in WS2-Jurisdiction pushing for the 
idea that ICANN should be "immune" from the courts; essentially the opposite of 
accountability. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Now for the commentary: &nbsp;I 
hope that if either of these bad ideas make their way into the final reports 
(however unlikely that such would occur), that the GNSO at least would stand in 
the way of adoption -- even if such a stand were against the tide of ICANN 
orthodoxy prevalent at the moment of 
voting.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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Subject: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction<br>
From: "James M. Bladel" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx";>jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Wed, November 09, 2016 3:08 am<br>
To: GNSO Council List &lt;<a 
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
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style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Council colleagues 
–<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div> 
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">See below for a statement 
published on the CCWG-ACCT mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div 
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style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Thank 
you,<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">J.</span><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div> 
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 
0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span 
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span 
style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">&lt;<a 
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxx";>accountability-cross-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;
 on behalf of parminder &lt;<a 
href="mailto:parminder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>parminder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br> 
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 7:31 <br> <b>To: </b>CCWG 
Accountability &lt;<a 
href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@xxxxxxxxx";>accountability-cross-community@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
 <b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US 
jurisdiction<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div> </div> <div><span 
style="font-family:Verdana">All</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div><span 
style="font-family:Verdana">I thought this may be relevant to those on this 
list. Regard, parminder</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><br> <br> -------- Forwarded Message -------- 
<o:p></o:p></div> <table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" 
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<td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">ICANN's US jurisdiction<o:p></o:p></div> </td> </tr> 
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style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>Date: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> 
<td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">Wed, 9 Nov 2016 07:23:40 +0530<o:p></o:p></div> </td> 
</tr> <tr> <td nowrap="" valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div 
class="MsoNormal" align="right" 
style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>From: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> 
<td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">parminder <a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:parminder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>&lt;parminder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></div>
 </td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="" valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> 
<div class="MsoNormal" align="right" 
style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>To: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> <td 
style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> 
<a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>&lt;governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</a>,
 BestBitsList <a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:bestbits@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>&lt;bestbits@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</a>,
 Forum@Justnetcoalition. Org <a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>&lt;forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></div>
 </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><br> <br> All<br> <br> As you know, the issue of 
jurisdiction of ICANN is under consideration at ICANN's community process (in 
the accountability track where there is a sub group discussing this issue). 
ICANN is currently meeting in Hyderabad, India, from 3rd to 9th November. <br> 
<br> Today, on the last day of ICANN's Hyderabad meeting, the enclosed 
statement was issued by key Indian civil society organisations engaged with 
Internet governance issues, supported by two key global networks involved in 
this area. The statement expresses the urgent need for transiting ICANN from 
being under the jurisdiction of one country, presenting the rationale of why 
this is important to do. It also lists some possible options of doing so, 
towards beginning a serious action-oriented deliberation on this very important 
matter. Unlike what is often understood, the jurisdiction issue is not just a 
matter of sovereign prestige and self respect of the states but concerns vital 
matters impacting people's rights. This is especially so as the society gets 
more and more digitised in all areas.<br> <br> We welcome comments and 
feedback.<br> <br> The statement has been issued by the following Indian civil 
society organisations. <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://cis-india.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Centre for Internet and 
Society</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, Bangalore 
</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://www.itforchange.net/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">IT for 
Change</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, Bangalore 
</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Movement_of_India";><span 
lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Free 
Software Movement of India</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, Hyderabad 
</span> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://www.knowledgecommons.in/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Society for Knowledge 
Commons</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New 
Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://defindia.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Digital Empowerment 
Foundation</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New 
Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://www.delhiscienceforum.net/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Delhi Science 
Forum</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New 
Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span lang="EN-GB">Software 
Freedom Law Center India</span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New 
Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="https://twnetwork.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Third World Network - 
India</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New 
Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div> <div 
class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">It is supported 
by the following global networks:<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="https://www.apc.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Association For 
Progressive Communications</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div 
class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://justnetcoalition.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Just Net Coalition <br> 
</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://justnetcoalition.org/";><br> </a><span 
style="font-size:13.5pt;line-height:120%">We will soon expand this effort to 
enlist more global support.</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span 
style="font-size:13.5pt;line-height:120%">Best, 
Parminder</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://justnetcoalition.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> 
</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://justnetcoalition.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> 
</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://justnetcoalition.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> 
</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" 
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span 
style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" 
href="http://justnetcoalition.org/";><span lang="EN-GB" 
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> 
</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div>   
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