Re: [council] Proposed letter to the Drafting Team

[Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with James.  I think it opens up a number of cans.

Stephanie Perrin


On 2016-05-23 10:57, James M. Bladel wrote:
> Hi Paul -
>
> Off the cuff, I have some concerns about Council going further than 
> official positions by the SGs/Cs.  Most individuals or organizations 
> have some affiliation with the GNSO, and it would be difficult to make 
> a clear distinction.  The risks of us referencing one comment, while 
> leaving out one from an equivalent person or group (even if due to 
> error) could be seen as Council endorsement.
> Also, consider the scenario where there are significant differences 
> between the position of a commenter versus their respective SG/C.   If 
> the RrSG comments in favor of chocolate ice cream, but comments from 
> GoDaddy favor vanilla, then by including both the Council could be 
> perceived as undermining the consensus-building processes within that 
> SG/C.  In this case, the IPC & NTIA comments are probably aligned, but 
> absent an analysis from Staff, we should be cautious about inserting 
> ourselves in to any position differences.
> I understand your intention to present a list that is as comprehensive 
> as possible, but I’m concerned that there’s no way to do so in a fair 
> an equitable manner, and especially without creating precedent for 
> future comments. But I’d welcome thoughts from other Councilors on 
> this point.
> Thanks—
>
> J.
>
>
> From: Paul McGrady <policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Monday, May 23, 2016 at 8:15
> To: 'Marika Konings' <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>>, James Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>>, GNSO Council List 
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> Subject: RE: [council] Proposed letter to the Drafting Team
>
> Thanks Marika.  I think we have to go more granular than just the C’, 
> SG’s etc.  For example, INTA put in public comments.  They are a 
> member of the IPC and a therefore a member of the GNSO community.
> Best,
>
> Paul
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 7:59 AM
> *To:* James M. Bladel; Paul McGrady; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> *Subject:* Re: [council] Proposed letter to the Drafting Team
>
> I believe Bruce just answered question #1. With regards to bullet 3:
>
>   * IPC -
>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-new-bylaws-21apr16/msg00028.html
>   * NCSG -
>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-new-bylaws-21apr16/msg00022.html
>   * BC -
>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-new-bylaws-21apr16/msg00024.html
>   * ISPCP -
>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-new-bylaws-21apr16/msg00012.html
>   * RySG -
>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-new-bylaws-21apr16/msg00011.html
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> *Marika Konings*
>
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> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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> *From: *<owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of "James M. Bladel" 
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> *Date: *Sunday 22 May 2016 at 13:35
> *To: *Paul McGrady <policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> *Subject: *Re: [council] Proposed letter to the Drafting Team
>
> Hi Paul -
>
> Thanks for kicking this off.  Generally, I’m good with this letter.  A 
> few questions/comments:
>   * Given the compressed timeline, can we ask Staff to confirm whether
>     or not the Drafting Team will have an opportunity to amend the
>     proposed bylaws before submitting to the Board?  I’m assuming they
>     will, but…
>   * Should we also cc: the Board and/or CCWG Co-Chairs? (hedge)
>   * With the Comment Period now closed, could we task someone from
>     Policy Staff to assist Paul in gathering links to GNSO comments?
>   * The Board is meeting this week to consider the draft bylaws.  It
>     is therefore imperative that we move quickly to get this sent.
>      Councilors, please send edits/comments/concerns by EOD (Pacific)
>     Monday to ensure that this is posted overnight Tuesday.
>
> Thanks again—
>
> J.
>
> *From: *<owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of Paul McGrady 
> <policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Date: *Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 6:01
> *To: *GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> *Subject: *[council] Proposed letter to the Drafting Team
>
> Hi all,
>
> On our last call, I volunteered t draft a short letter from James to 
> the Bylaws Drafting Team.  Here is the proposed body of that letter to 
> be kicked around the Council list:
> ________
>
> Dear Bylaws Drafting Team:
>
> The GNSO Council thanks you for your efforts in attempting to distill 
> the instructions found in the CCWG-Accountability Report into a 
> revised version of ICANN’s Bylaws.  We note that the draft Bylaws have 
> generated significant public comment from members of the GNSO 
> community.  These include:
> [Paul McGrady to pull these links out of the public comment after it 
> closes]
> We ask you to carefully review each of these comments and give them 
> serious consideration. It is important that the revised Bylaws remain 
> faithful to the CCWG-Accountability Report on which we, as a Council, 
> were called upon to vote in Marrakech.  We are fully at your disposal 
> should you wish to consult us on any issue raised in the comments 
> generated by the GNSO community.
> Kind regards,
>
> James Bladel
>
> Best,
>
> Paul
>
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