Re: [council] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf

[David Cake <davecake@xxxxxxxxx>]

Which means option a) - Nick does not understand what the Pilot Program is, and 
is confusing incorporporating PDP work into meeting B with incorporating the 
Pilot Program into meeting B (which there are no plans to do). 

In short, a very disappointing answer. 

David


> On 14 Apr 2016, at 10:09 AM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi David -
> 
> We can confirm with Nick, but I don’t think the implication was for the 
> face-to-face to encompass an entire day (25%!) of Meeting B.  Only that the 
> topic itself would be included in to the schedule/agenda for the Policy 
> Forum.  Something we can discuss further on our call in a few hours.
> 
> Thanks-
> 
> J.
> 
> From: David Cake <davecake@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:davecake@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 9:06 
> To: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Glen@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Cc: James Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>>, GNSO 
> Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> Subject: Re: [council] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf
> 
> Absorbing the full day Working Groups Pilot program into the schedule implies 
> that they believe it is practical to ask Working Group members will take an 
> extended period (usually a full day or nearly so for the Pilot Program so 
> far) out from an already short and overpacked meeting. 
> 
> I am finding this hard to understand in terms other than Nick is either a) 
> lacking in understanding of what the pilot program consists of and is 
> confusing it with more routine policy work or b) has entirely unrealistic 
> ideas about the scheduling of working group members or c) is making some kind 
> of joke. 
> 
> I’d frankly he rather had just said no than make this rather impractical 
> suggestion of incorporation. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 5:10 AM, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:Glen@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Councillors,
>>  
>> This letter has been published at:
>> 
>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/correspondence 
>> <http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=KTB340yHI8DoUtMP4BGJnral-2F6hkupRgT5qivhStIqpYc9ooSSrDMzEeq-2Fiww6R68D9Jo9rkUR8S6u0weY6PIg-3D-3D_r-2BdYbSjRm9r0i9vSiPZtW-2BX-2BAwnBbxYJcYft8cAni3iLz7nHdH1TO6yId4yJ1X5bCjn7UQ8ekPGWrKZXzU-2FB1vqqq7KS-2BMznRij3m3ZEI87WW3StxS8dTPOoQSB9krb-2FFJK2QHBzOYchxlxB81-2FrQgEKCZwhIWmFeV3hThjRR7ogCkshuA-2FPie9e6zmA6P8LI3FeKUEh3xT4riLnCHsO7nMzouRMxXUd8TFnl-2B2k3feMxMaOVnmFY1Ar1JT8Kd1-2F4VE2cFnc3gbVA6h4K3YyhG3Dn6e4CXjNlyeIFaI4w8B-2Fa2b7-2FBJ7PsedghUPNMaRGX-2FLAIAm0okbeKAU7OJY95gz7XiFrQdun7fbit2Z4FCJkilIp-2BqY3jN3cP-2BWyMLwWohCfuK-2F9a-2BJ2NZniUclqazjfIlkTV6eYKN1vl7c2eADhOC-2BmdQpCcmAC5ZFnwUqn-2FcONyLUyQBUN7Q34DUXi0YNXnYNE8zFpI8BrHm-2BkAU-3D>
>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/tomasso-to-bladel-13apr16-en.pdf 
>> <http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=KTB340yHI8DoUtMP4BGJnral-2F6hkupRgT5qivhStIqoExAjgxJgreLIp0IioJuTv-2Fb-2BnjpU41y3huUg-2Bcjfp2io3E5AFPJ9mDVdHCMZMPdM-3D_r-2BdYbSjRm9r0i9vSiPZtW-2BX-2BAwnBbxYJcYft8cAni3iLz7nHdH1TO6yId4yJ1X5bCjn7UQ8ekPGWrKZXzU-2FB1vqqq7KS-2BMznRij3m3ZEI87WW3StxS8dTPOoQSB9krb-2FFJK2QHBzOYchxlxB81-2FrQgEKCZwhIWmFeV3hThjRR7ogCkshuA-2FPie9e6zmA6P8LI3FeKUEh3xT4riLnCHsO7nMzouRMxXUd8TFnl-2B2k3feMxMaOVnmFY1Ar1JT8Kd1-2F4VE2cFnc3gbVA6h4K3YyhG3Dn6e4CXjNlyeIFaI4w8Cuz18FBu7x7vilFPmA-2B7NMpdvjlkkySD6HrY5tbqZ-2Bl7I2-2BXlcSUynQDV8FiBSx1GC2c2N4Q0hXbGBGzwnL2t3vwfFcM88wKwKs3fUcqQsWXVGv2EFOBBVAPdTtW0kblexDoBngZGUTTi23r5Yc4w0SL6RSHfhkSTiEBjYDZBbG62Kuad-2BYQ7n1zQPkoJSsXA-3D>
>>  
>> Thank you.
>> Kind regards,
>>  
>> Glen
>>   <>
>> De : owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] 
>> De la part de James M. Bladel
>> Envoyé : jeudi 14 avril 2016 04:41
>> À : GNSO Council List
>> Objet : [council] FW: [gnso-chairs] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf
>>  
>> Councilor Colleagues -
>>  
>> Please see attached for a letter form Nick Tomasso, responding to our 
>> earlier request regarding a face-to-face PDP meeting.   During our 
>> discussions in Marrakech and with smaller groups, we have tried to balance 
>> the value of having these sessions at ICANN meetings, while trying to remain 
>> faithful to the intention of the "Meeting B” policy forum concept.   
>>  
>> As for Nick’s response, I would like to draw your attention to this 
>> statement in particular:
>> "It is anticipated that the PDP Working Groups Pilot Program will be 
>> absorbed into the 'Meeting B' schedule rather than having an additional day 
>> specifically for that purpose." 
>>  
>> I agree that the Policy Forum concept must recognize the importance of 
>> advancing the work of ongoing PDPs, but would emphasize incorporating these 
>> in to the 4 day schedule, rather than add an optional 5th day.  
>>  
>> I welcome thoughts from others on this topics and Nicks’ letter, and I’m 
>> looking forward to further discussions on tomorrow’s call.
>>  
>> Thank you,
>>  
>> J.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: <owner-gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:owner-gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx>> on 
>> behalf of "Tanzanica S. King" <tanzanica.king@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:tanzanica.king@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 21:26 
>> To: "gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx>" 
>> <gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> Cc: David Olive <david.olive@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:david.olive@xxxxxxxxx>>, 
>> "Board-Ops-Team@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Board-Ops-Team@xxxxxxxxx>" 
>> <board-ops-team@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:board-ops-team@xxxxxxxxx>>, Marika Konings 
>> <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>>, Sally 
>> Costerton <sally.costerton@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sally.costerton@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> Subject: [gnso-chairs] Letter to James Bladel_13Apr16.pdf
>>  
>> Dear James,
>>  
>> Please find the attached letter from Nick Tomasso concerning your request 
>> for face-to-face sessions of PDP Working Groups linked to ICANN56.
>>  
>> Best regards,
>>  
>> Tanzanica
>>  
>>  
>> Tanzanica S. King
>> Sr. Manager, Meeting Strategy and Design 
>> ICANN
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