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Re: [council] Voting Statements

  • To: "Paul McGrady (Policy)" <policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Thomas Rickert'" <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'James M. Bladel'" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Marika Konings'" <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, "'GNSO Council List'" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [council] Voting Statements
  • From: Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:21:23 +0100
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Hi Paul,

I may be mistaken but I do not think Thomas or anyone else gave any guarantee of how the CCWG or the board would treat these comments. While the GNSO council chose to attach them to its communication approving the recommendations, any expectation of continued forwarding to the NTIA or congress had no basis in the statements made to us.

In the end, all that matters is that the chartering organizations voted in favor of the recommendations. Any statements attached to these votes were forwarded to the next level, but beyond that, there were no guarantees. The statements are on record, and anyone interested will be able to find them. That should be enough.

Best regards,

Volker Greimann

Am 18.03.2016 um 17:03 schrieb Paul McGrady (Policy):
Thanks Thomas.  This is a bit less robust than advertised.  Can you please
do more for us to ensure that what was sent to NTIA (which presumably
reaches Congress) actually contained these statements?  I don't think it is
reasonable to assume that NTIA users of the CCWG will automatically attach
our voting statements to whatever they communicate to Congress and others in
Washington.  If we can't get certainty on that, then I may need to go back
to my constituency and get permission to take a more direct route.  Thanks
in advance for your anticipated follow through on the promise that our
statements would be included in the package sent to the NTIA.

Regards,
Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Rickert [mailto:thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:51 AM
To: James M. Bladel; Marika Konings; Paul McGrady; GNSO Council List
(council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: Re: [council] Voting Statements

Hi James,
I can confirm that we have referenced to all papers form the Chartering
Organizations and the GNSO repsonse includes the IPC statement, amongst
others.

While I have not seen (but it may just be me) reference to the Chartering
Organizations' letters in the Board submission to NTIA, I should mention
that NTIA representatives are on the CCWG list and have therefore taken note
of the Chartering Orgs statements.

I hope this helps.

Thomas

Am 14.03.2016 um 20:57 schrieb James M. Bladel:
Thanks, Marika.

If I¹m understanding your message, we sent all materials to CCWG-ACCT,
and these were references in their submission to the Board...but we
have no confirmation that the Board included these materials in their
submission to NTIA.  Is this correct?

If so, then perhaps we could raise this question with Thomas.  And I
presume there is nothing to prevent us from submitting these directly
to the folks at NTIA.

Thank you,

J.


On 3/14/16, 11:00 , "owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Marika
Konings" <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Paul, for your information, please find attached the transmittal
message
>from the CCWG-Accountability to the ICANN Board, which includes a
link to
the message that James sent which included the transmittal letter and
attachments with statements as well as voting record. The transmittal
message from the ICANN Board to NTIA can be found here
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/2016-Mar
ch/01
1
720.html. As far as I can tell, the ICANN Board transmittal does not
seem to include the details of the consideration by the different
chartering organisations, but I may have missed it as there are a
number of attachments that have been provided.

Best regards,

Marika

On 14/03/16 09:00, "owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Paul
McGrady" <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

James,

Can you confirm that, as promised, the CCWG-ACCT passed along the
various voting statements to the Board and the Board, in turn, has
passed them along to the NTIA?  These are an important part of the
record and we were assured they would end up in the hands of the
NTIA. Hopefully, that happened as advertised. Thanks for checking
and getting back to the List with news.

Best,
Paul


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