Re: [council] Notes from today's GNSO Council call

[Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak@xxxxxxxxx>]

Mickey thank you so so much!!!

I was having a hard time in this call with noise in the line and small cuts
so this will help me a lot to get the things I´ve missed!!!

:)

Gabi

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2014-02-27 15:25 GMT-03:00 Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>:

>
>
> i agree.  thanks.
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> avri
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>
> On 27-Feb-14 18:38, James M. Bladel wrote:
>
>> As someone who missed the call - THANK YOU!
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
>> From: Mike O'Connor <mike@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mike@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>>
>> Date: Thursday, February 27, 2014 at 10:33
>> To: GNSO Council List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>
>> Subject: [council] Notes from today's GNSO Council call
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> as many of you know, i'm an obsessive note-taker in meetings.  i thought
>> i would share my notes from the call this morning with this list and ask
>> you to let me know if you would like me to continue sending them to this
>> list as well.  these are mostly for me, and my ISPCP colleagues (so pay
>> no attention to the action-items, those are mostly for me).  feel free
>> to sing out if you find these annoying or unhelpful.  these are NOT
>> official minutes, just personal notes of one member.
>>
>> disclaimer -- these are my notes and may contain errors of fact or
>> understanding.  if something in here makes you unhappy, check with me or
>> the person before taking extreme action.  :-)
>>
>> also note that item 6 and item 4 were reversed on the agenda, which is
>> why these notes are not in strictest numeric sequence.
>>
>> mikey
>>
>>
>> Council call - 27-Feb 2014
>>
>>   *
>>
>>     + - Item 1: Administrative matters (10 mins)
>>
>>       o 1.1 Roll Call
>>       o + - 1.2 Statement of interest updates
>>           + Maria Farrell
>>           + ~ https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Maria+Farrell+
>> SOI
>>             <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Maria+Farrell+
>> SOI>
>>       o 1.3 Review/amend agenda
>>       o + - 1.4. Note the status of minutes for the previous Council
>>
>>         meeting per the GNSO Operating Procedures:
>>           + Minutes of the GNSO Council meetings 23 January 2014 were
>>
>>             posted as approved on 17 February 2014.
>>
>>     + - Item 2: Opening Remarks / Review of Projects & Action List (10
>>     mins)
>>
>>       o Review focus areas and provide updates on specific key themes /
>>         topics
>>       o Include review of Projects List and Action List.
>>       o + - Comments or questions arising.
>>           + Action: note a diary entry to review the list prior to each
>>
>>             meeting - and forward to the ISPCP list
>>
>>     Item 3: Consent agenda (0 mins)
>>
>>     + - Item 4: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - GNSO Engagement with the work of
>>     the ICANN Strategy Panels (15 mins)
>>
>>       o
>>
>>         + - Here the Council will receive an update on any relevant
>>         interaction with and output from the strategy panels and discuss
>>         any appropriate action going forward.
>>
>>           + +- Update:
>>
>>               #
>>
>>                 +- Strat Panels are out for comment
>>
>>                   * ~ icann.org > En > News > Public-comment >
>>                     Strategy-panels-25feb14-en
>>                     <http://www.icann.org/en/news/
>> public-comment/strategy-panels-25feb14-en.htm>
>>                   * ~ icann.org > En > News > Announcements >
>>                     Announcement-2-25feb14-en
>>                     <http://www.icann.org/en/news/
>> announcements/announcement-2-25feb14-en.htm>
>>
>>
>>                 Fadi's recent update to AC/SO chairs -- on role panels
>>                 and their role in the strategy process -- concern about
>>                 top-down was discussed
>>
>>                 +- MSI panel --
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     +- 16 proposals (here's a link to my little matrix
>>                     of the proposals -- arrayed by Goal <--> Tool and
>>                     Participation <--> Policy)
>>
>>                       o ~ haven2.com > Wp-content > Uploads > 2007 > 07
>>                          > PDP-Overview-GAC-GNSO-v5
>>                         <http://www.haven2.com/wp-
>> content/uploads/2007/07/PDP-Overview-GAC-GNSO-v5.jpg>
>>
>>
>>                     +- Jonathan has reached out -- got off to a bit of a
>>                     slow start -- but meetings 2 weeks ago and yesterday
>>
>>                       o
>>
>>                         +- flag waving - we're the Council and the GNSO
>>                         - your work feels as though it overlaps our
>>                         remit - so we are very tuned to you work
>>
>>                           + Novak offered to do some kind of interview
>>
>>                             -- Jonathan was uncomfortable
>>
>>                         +- Yesterday's meeting
>>
>>                           +
>>
>>                             working toward a meeting with 1/2 members of
>>                             the staff (govLab) people in singapore
>>
>>                             opportunity to home in on a subset of the
>>                             recommendations that are more closely
>>                             related to the policy work of the GNSO
>>
>>                     +- 2 issues
>>
>>                       o +- "top down" concern
>>                           + Jonathan: best aimed at Fadi not the MSI panel
>>           + +- Discussion
>>               # +- Berard
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     +- "this is something we need to talk about"
>>                     reenforces the "executivification" of ICANN -- it's
>>                     really hard for a part time person to stay above the
>>                     raging water -- the community is becoming more
>>                     professional -- this is driving some of our
>>                     community members mad -- the more we can do to
>>                     foster discussion at the broadest level in the
>>                     community, the better
>>
>>                       o Jonathan shares concern over the raging water
>>                       o Jonathan emphasises distinction between MSI
>>                         content and MSI chartering
>>               # +- Amr
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     +- commisioning is very top down -- there is a lot
>>                     of work going on -- that's where the changes would
>>                     have to be reviewed
>>
>>                       o
>>
>>                         doesn't feel quite as concerned as others are
>>
>>                         +- Jonathan - we have the opportunity to engage
>>                         -- maybe a written response to the panel from
>>                         the council
>>
>>                           + reaction to their work AND
>>                           + work that the GNSO is doing
>>               # +- Stoll
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     +- we need to inform them to alert them to overlaps
>>                     AND we need to inform administration of concerns
>>                     directly
>>
>>                       o comments seem to go into a black hole
>>                       o be careful in the engagement
>>               # +- Chiao
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     volunteers -- substantial proportion of cycles going
>>                     to IG issue
>>
>>                     registries -- implementation requirements,
>>                     additional load of IG work -- overloaded is not just
>>                     limited to volunteers in non-contracted parties.
>>                       Ry's and Rr's are struggling to keep up with
>>                     implementation requirements in addition to
>>                     policy-making and IG discussion.  Very hard,
>>                     especially for smaller registries.
>>
>>                     +- ICANN is now representing all of our voices --
>>                     will people outside of ICANN have a chance to talk
>>                     with the community directly?  Is ICANN trying to
>>                     represent us, rather than letting that conversation
>>                     take place directly?
>>
>>                       o maybe it's time for constituencies to step out
>>               # +- Greimann
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     topics are very worthwhile -- also helpful to have
>>                     an outside voice -- however i think this effort
>>                     should have come in the ICANN way -- thus they have
>>                     a bit of a birth defect because of the way they were
>>                     launched -- we shouldn't be deferential, give
>>                     advice, should be seen as comparable to the GAC
>>
>>               # +- Greenberg
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     MSI - remember they were put in place to comment on
>>                     the *whole* MS model, not just GNSO -- their remit
>>                     is broader - they were asked to suggest changes -
>>                     informed process --  they DID suggest changes and we
>>                     need to embrace/refine their suggestions without
>>                     appearing defensive
>>
>>           + +- Followup
>>               # Jonathan will follow up with Theresa about how we can
>>
>>                 best interact with these panels
>>
>>     + - Item 5: UPDATE - PDP Working Group on Translation &
>>     Transliteration of Contact Information (10 mins)
>>
>>       o
>>
>>         The GNSO Council recently initiated a Policy Development Process
>>         (PDP) on the Translation and Transliteration of Contact
>>         Information. As part of its efforts to obtain broad input from
>>         the ICANN Community at an early stage of its deliberations, the
>>         Working Group has requested input from the Supporting
>>         Organizations (including the GNSO) and Advisory Committees on
>>         several questions relating to the issues identified in the PDP
>>         Final Issue Report.
>>
>>         + - 5.1 - Update (Ching Chiao)
>>
>>           + presented by Chris Dillon - cochair
>>           + +- request for input - deadline is tomorrow
>>               # https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag
>>
>>         + - 5.2 - Discussion
>>
>>           + +- Chiao - thanks Chris, encourages comments from
>>             constituencies
>>               # Action: remind ISPCP of need for input
>>
>>
>>         5.3 - Next steps
>>
>>     + - Item 6: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - International Internet Governance
>>     Issues  (20 mins)
>>
>>       o
>>
>>         Discussions and activity relating to international Internet
>>         Governance issues are attracting a great deal of attention in
>>         ICANN and related groups. This item is on the agenda to provide
>>         an opportunity for discussion within the Council about how this
>>         impacts the role and work of the Council and mindful of the
>>         scope and remit of the Council, what action the Council should
>>         or could be taking.
>>
>>         + - 4.1 - Status update (Sally Costerton)
>>
>>           + Jonathan: what should be focusing on at Council
>>           + +- Sally:
>>               # +- several streams around IG
>>                   * +- Background
>>
>>                       o
>>
>>                         +- Buenos Aires - became clear that profile of
>>                         IG was increasing - triggered by Snowden issue
>>
>>                           + the rest of the world had "woken up"
>>                           + resurfaced WCIT issues
>>
>>
>>                         very full IG calendar in 2014
>>
>>                         Fadi's view - sense that there is frustration
>>                         over how hard IG issues are to resolve
>>
>>                         ITU - march toward their meeting late in the
>>                         year -- debate around whether they're going to
>>                         change their remit
>>
>>                         if we don't participate others will do it for us
>>
>>                   * +- 1Net
>>
>>                       o
>>
>>                         discussion forum where debate is taking place in
>>                         great detail
>>
>>                         now has a steering committee
>>
>>                         +- web forum is up and running -- discussion is
>>                         migrating that direction -- much easier to
>>                         follow than the overwhelming traffic on the
>>                         email list
>>
>>                           + ~ https://forum.1net.org/
>>                             <https://forum.1net.org/>
>>                   * +- CCWG
>>                       o discuss and collect input
>>                       o meeting weekly
>>                       o goal: position by the end of March
>>                       o +- email archive
>>                           + http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/
>> ccwg-internet-governance/
>>                       o +- web page
>>                           +
>>
>>                             https://community.icann.org/
>> display/CPMMB/ICANN+Community+Preparation+for+the+
>> Multistakeholder+Meeting+in+Brazil+Home
>>
>>                   * +- Hi Level Panel (5th panel)
>>                       o +- 3 f2f meetings
>>                           + December
>>                           + now
>>                           + May
>>                       o there is to be a submission to the Brazil meeting
>>                   * +- NetMundial
>>                       o goal: HOW to decide, not decide
>>                       o submissions of principle and framework
>>                       o late April, just after Easter
>>                       o hosted by Brazilian govt
>>                       o 4 cochairs
>>                       o Hi level committee -- just met this week --
>>
>>                         goal: good attention/attendance by governments
>>                       o deadline for registration is tomorrow (28-Feb)
>>                       o +- registration web page
>>
>>                           + ~ content.netmundial.br > Interests >
>>                             Expression
>>                             <http://content.netmundial.br/
>> interests/expression>
>>                       o +- overall web page
>>
>>                           + ~ netmundial.br <http://netmundial.br/>
>>                   * +- Singapore
>>                       o NCSG event -- starts at 10am, Friday before
>>
>>                         meeting, 10:00 - 18:00, followed by reception
>>                         w/Fadi
>>                       o Several events during the ICANN meetings
>>
>>         + - 4.2 - Discussion
>>
>>           + +- Berard;
>>
>>               #
>>
>>                 +- ccNSO: categories of participation in NetMudial
>>                 meetingdon't make room for ccTLD managers -- is this a
>>                 metaphor for the way that IG discussions aren't leaving
>>                 room for individual members of ICANN
>>
>>                   * +- tactical - ccNSO members?
>>                       o open registration meeting - everybody is welcome
>>
>>                         - first come first served attendance
>>                       o strongly encourage participation
>>
>>
>>                 +- Snowden revelations provide excellent cover for
>>                 political intent -- what is Fadi's public position on
>> this?
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     Maria Farrell: John - the Montevideo statement sets
>>                     out pretty clearly the concern re. pervasive
>>                     monitoring and Internet stewardship. Fadi signed it
>>                     for ICANN so I think it's fair to say he sees a
>>                     link. Even if some use the Snowden revelations
>>                     tactically, the fact remains that many have lost
>>                     faith in the impartiality of the USG.
>>
>>                     +- Costerton: get asked questions about
>>                     globalization of ICANN and Snowden - we don't have a
>>                     particular view - realization within the US govt
>>                     that structures may need to change
>>
>>                       o need to reenforce other voices at the table
>>
>>
>>                 +- Richard Clark transcript -- the two issues are as far
>>                 apart as one could find
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     ~ windowsitpro.com > Identity-management >
>>                     Richard-clarke-rsa-conference-10-observations-us-
>> intelligence-gathering
>>                     <http://windowsitpro.com/identity-management/richard-
>> clarke-rsa-conference-10-observations-us-intelligence-gathering>
>>
>>           + +- Farrell
>>
>>               #
>>
>>                 +- Board resolution on globalization - disquite on lack
>>                 of consultation, yet more CEO appointed panels, a lot of
>>                 CEO-led activity going on.  concern about Council role
>>                 in this ad hoc series of actions by administration
>>
>>                   *
>>
>>                     +- Board chair saw a lot of email on this -- perhaps
>>                     the 1net list?
>>
>>                       o
>>
>>                         ~ Marika Konings: Please note that this is the
>>                         email from Steve Crocker that Sally was
>>                         referring to:
>>                         http://1net-mail.1net.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-
>> February/002194.html
>>                         <http://1net-mail.1net.org/
>> pipermail/discuss/2014-February/002194.html>
>>
>>                     Costerton; with her engagement hat on -- groups are
>>                     to facilitate the discussion that you have described
>>                     Maria -- they will be in Singapore and given a
>>                     public block - Council needs to know that their role
>>                     is to act as facilitator
>>
>>                     +- Avri would very much have liked to participate
>>                     the process of setting this up - post is coming to
>>                     the list
>>
>>                       o Action: watch for that post
>>           + +- Cake:
>>               # +- is there anything that the Council or SGs should do?
>>                   * reach out to communities and encourage them to
>>                     participate in Netmundial
>>                   * +- take a look at the BCG report
>>                       o ~ icann.org > En > News > Announcements >
>>                         Announcement-24jan14-en
>>                         <http://www.icann.org/en/news/
>> announcements/announcement-24jan14-en.htm>
>>           + +- Chiao
>>
>>               #
>>
>>                 congratulates Costerton on ASIAPAC engagement -- AsiaPAC
>>                 members would like to be more engaged with the actual
>>                 meetings, not just talking to people in the region,
>>                 bring people to the meeting table and actually contribute
>>
>>         4.3 - Next steps
>>
>>     + - Item 7: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - GAC Engagement - the work of the
>>     Joint GAC / GNSO Consultation Group (15 mins)
>>
>>       o Here the Council will receive an update and discuss any action
>>         going forward.
>>       o + - 7.1 - Status update
>>           + +- Amr:
>>               # +- Reviewed charter --
>>                   * http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/
>> gac-gnso-cg/attachments/20140212/c6e3f7b6/GAC-GNSO-final-0001.pdf
>>               # Two work streams - PDP early engagement and day to day
>>                 interaction
>>       o + - 7.2 - Discussion
>>           + +- Mikey
>>               # Charter is done, proposals are in progress
>>       o 7.3 - Next steps
>>
>>
>>     + - Item 8: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - Forthcoming review of the GNSO (10
>>     mins)
>>
>>       o
>>
>>         As part of a periodic review process that is built into the
>>         ICANN model, ICANN board initiated reviews of the GNSO (and the
>>         GNSO Council and related functions) are expected.  In order to
>>         be informed and effectively prepared for this work, we have
>>         begun to engage with the body that commissions such reviews (the
>>         structural improvements committee) through its chair, Ray Plazk.
>>
>>         The Council will track the planning work of the SIC and, where
>>         appropriate; provide relevant input to the process.  We will
>>         also prepare to undertake a form of self-review in a similar
>>         format to that which we expect to arise out of the work of the
>>         SIC.  A self-review will ensure that we are not only prepared
>>         for the board initiated work but also able to flag areas for
>>         potential improvement in as timely as possible a manner.
>>
>>         + - 8.1 - Update (Jennifer Wolfe)
>>
>>           +
>>
>>             there is no update since the last meeting -- still waiting
>>             for an update from Ray
>>
>>             Jonathan: will there be a document prior to Singapore?
>>               Marika: nothing expected to be published before Singapore
>>
>>         8.2 - Discussion
>>
>>         8.3 - Next steps
>>
>>     + - Item 9: UPDATE & DISCUSSION - Planning for Singapore (15 mins)
>>
>>       o
>>
>>         Making the most out of the face-to-face meeting time available
>>         at the ICANN Meeting in Buenos Aires will take planning.  GNSO
>>         Council Vice Chair, David Cake will lead this and will be
>>         working with the Council and staff on this effort.
>>
>>         Here the Council has the opportunity to feed into plans and
>>         provide input based on past experience.  Included in this item
>>         will be the opportunity to shape the approach to and substance
>>         of the Council's proposed meetings with other groups in such as
>>         the CCNSO, the GAC and the ICANN board.
>>
>>         + - 9.1 - Update (David Cake & Jonathan Robinson)
>>
>>           + Cake: very much Draft,
>>
>>
>>         9.2 - Discussion
>>
>>         + - 9.3 - Next steps
>>
>>           + Action:  forward the draft schedule to the ISPCP list if it
>>
>>             hasn't been already  --  DONE
>>
>>     + - Item 10:  Any Other Business (10 mins)
>>
>>       o + - Community budget requests
>>           + +- requests from the Council:
>>               # Council development session,
>>               # face-to-face PDP meetings (potential for facilitation),
>>               # GAC GNSO reverse liaison (placeholder)
>>       o + - ICANN Board Seat 14 - NCPH - additional Council meeting
>>
>>         Thursday, 10 April 2014 at 14:00 UTC
>>           + this is a placeholder for that meeting -- Glen to follow up
>>
>>             to the list -- rationale for meeting
>>       o + - Note the Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC)
>>         presence in Singapore
>>           + Action: schedule them with ISPCP on Tuesday?
>>           + Action: note public session to ISPCP list
>>       o + - Meeting Strategy WG has draft out for comment
>>           + +- Action: forward to ISPCP list  - DONE
>>               # ~ icann.org > En > News > Public-comment >
>>                 Meetings-strategy-25feb14-en
>>                 <http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/meetings-
>> strategy-25feb14-en.htm>
>>           + Action: comments from ISPCP? - DONE
>>       o + - Amr: EWG process -- is Issue report the same as the EWG
>>
>>         final report?
>>           +
>>
>>             Marika: important to separate the two.  final report due
>>             London, may be another round of public comment.
>>
>>             There is already an initial report underway -- EWG will feed
>>             into that Issue Report, which will proceed to PDP because
>>             it's Board initiated
>>
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