Re: [council] About Designing a 21st Century ICANN

[Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>]

Though in fairness it was a Norwegian speaker who introduced these
(presumably Greek?) words to the debate.

In any case, at least you non-English natives have an excuse for not
understanding them. ;-)

Maria


On 3 February 2014 17:46, Gabriela Szlak <gabrielaszlak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> ... And bear in mind that the purpose - in their own words is- :
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>    - *Proposing new models for broad, *inclusive engagement,*
>    consensus-based policymaking and institutional structures to support such
>    enhanced functions; and*
>    - *Designing processes, tools and platforms that enable a global
>    ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory
>    decision-making*
>
> Google translator cannot even translate those two words... it feels really
> strange to talk about global engagement and participatory processes only in
> English and in a an English that it seems also complex for english speakers
> to get...
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> 2014-02-03 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Goodness, I also nearly snorted my coffee but held it down long enough to
>> look up 'scylla' and 'charybdis'. I was chagrinned to learn these new (to
>> me) words were first used in the ICANN context by the beloved Norwegian
>> Harald Alvestrand back in 2002, a few reform movements back. Who knew?
>>
>> "The current ICANN has attempted to chart a course between the scylla of
>> doing nothing and the charybdis of doing everything;"
>> http://www.alvestrand.no/icann/icann_reform.html
>>
>>
>> On 3 February 2014 17:23, <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> My coffee came through my nose this morning when I read the blueprint
>>> from the multistakeholder strategy panel.  But, while language like this:
>>> "engaging people in meaningful and productive conversations about how to
>>> redesign the way ICANN runs itself is difficult because the conversation
>>> gets caught, on the one hand, between the scylla of broad generalities and
>>> geopolitics without regard to the specifics of ICANN's day-to-day work, and
>>> the charybdis of mind-numbing technical detail on the other" is a bit
>>> overblown, it also works as mis-direction. There is no argument but that
>>> generalities, geopolitics and technical detail are a part of ICANN's life,
>>> but I would argue with "broad" and "mind-numbing."  That kind of language
>>> tips the player's hand.
>>>
>>> Further, by pegging effectiveness to the use of expert networks and
>>> linking legitimacy to crowdsourcing at each stage of decision making may
>>> only hint at the future shape of ICANN but it is clear in its view that the
>>> current version is no longer appetizing.  I will likely think hard about
>>> that as I pack for the trip to Singapore.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Berard
>>>
>>>
>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>> Subject: [council] FW: Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN
>>> From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 2/3/14 1:12 am
>>> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* The ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation & The
>>> GovLab [mailto:icannmsipanel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> *Sent:* 31 January 2014 19:01
>>> *To:* jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Subject:* Stage 2 Begins: Designing a 21st Century ICANN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                Hello!
>>>
>>> By engaging the stakeholders of the Internet (this really includes
>>> everyone!), the ICANN Strategy Panel on Multistakeholder Innovation (the
>>> MSI 
>>> Panel<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=9e2fe95b04&e=32eced4cfd>)
>>> and The Governance Lab @ NYU (The 
>>> GovLab<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=d1a6e896d6&e=32eced4cfd>)
>>> are working to develop a set of concrete proposals for designing the
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) - the public
>>> interest organization responsible for coordinating the Internet's Domain
>>> Name System (DNS) - for the 21st Century.
>>>
>>> We're writing to request your participation in this important initiative
>>> and to help us spread the word!
>>>
>>> Today launches *Stage 2 **- Proposal Development - *of our online
>>> engagement effort aimed at getting *your* input into the Panel's work
>>> in order to bring our ideas for evolving ICANN from principle to practice.
>>> The Panel has been specifically charged by ICANN's President and CEO with:
>>>
>>> ·  Proposing new models for international engagement, consensus-driven
>>> policymaking and institutional structures to support such enhanced
>>> functions; and
>>>
>>> ·  Designing processes, tools and platforms that enable the global
>>> ICANN community to engage in these new forms of participatory
>>> decision-making.
>>>
>>> To answer this charter, we launched a three-stage brainstorm initiative
>>> on November 19, 2013. We started with *Stage 1: Idea Generation. *The
>>> Panel and GovLab launched an *engagement platform
>>> <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=49575264ee&e=32eced4cfd>*asking
>>>  the global public to share their ideas for what techniques,
>>> strategies, tools and platforms ICANN could look to and learn from to help
>>> transform itself into an *effective, legitimate and evolving* 21st
>>> century global organization.
>>>
>>> We now want to take these ideas closer to implementation during Stage 2.
>>> To do so, we've shared the *draft proposal blueprint 
>>> *<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=b31cd77527&e=32eced4cfd>on
>>> the *GovLab Blog *organizing all of our ideas into 16 concrete
>>> proposals for ICANN, which we are *opening up to you for discussion. *We
>>> want your feedback, input, comments, questions, and suggestions on what
>>> we've collected. We've also published our first set of proposals, which
>>> include recommendations for ICANN to:
>>>
>>>    - Leverage expert 
>>> networking<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=c8d26b0537&e=32eced4cfd>
>>>    ;
>>>    - Use crowdsourcing during all phases of 
>>> decisionmaking<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=78cb16e898&e=32eced4cfd>;
>>>    and
>>>    - Crowdsource oversight and develop standards to measure 
>>> success<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=75796fa362&e=32eced4cfd>
>>>    .
>>>
>>>  *Feel free to provide feedback or reactions using comments or the
>>> line-by-line annotation tools enabled on the blog.*
>>>
>>> You can also see all of these materials aggregated on the GovLab's ICANN
>>> project page, online 
>>> *HERE*<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=e606d3f2d6&e=32eced4cfd>
>>> *.*
>>>
>>> *Help us spread the word!*
>>>
>>> Do you know any people or organizations who would be interested in these
>>> proposal topics? *We'd love to get their feedback, too.* Consider doing
>>> any of the following:
>>>
>>> ·  Forward this "Call To Action" to colleagues and organizations you
>>> know working in these areas who may have ideas or feedback to share on the
>>> blog.
>>>
>>> ·  Share our proposal draft links (all accessible 
>>> *here*<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=166e90c780&e=32eced4cfd>
>>> *)*, as widely as possible within your networks (e.g., via mailing
>>> lists and listservs). Feel free to link to these posts or repost on your
>>> website edited to fit your needs!
>>>
>>> ·  Use social media platforms such as Facebook, Twitter or Google+ to
>>> spread the word about this initiative (use the *#WeCANN *hashtag!).
>>>
>>> ·  To inspire participation and learn how to contribute, watch and
>>> share a *video
>>> <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=adb2ce10df&e=32eced4cfd>*The
>>>  GovLab made when we launched this brainstorm.
>>>
>>> ·  Discuss the MSI Panel's work and proposals in your own communities
>>> and share your comments and feedback with the us in the blog comments or at
>>> icannmsipanel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=c78e16b652&e=32eced4cfd>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Toward the end of February - we will move into the last stage of this
>>> brainstorm - *Stage 3: Collaborative Drafting*. Using a *wiki
>>> <http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=e89c0b7d3f&e=32eced4cfd>*,
>>> we will invite collaborative drafting on a first full draft of all
>>> proposals that the Panel will then submit to the ICANN CEO, Board and
>>> community. So stay tuned!
>>>
>>> For more information, visit The GovLab at 
>>> www.thegovlab.org<http://openinggovernment.us6.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=1a990feb5c&id=6c7b575816&e=32eced4cfd>.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and best,
>>>
>>> *The MSI Panel & The GovLab*
>>>
>>>
>>>
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