Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

[Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jonathan,

it is not really a concern, I just thought it may be worthwhile 
considering not to over-regulate. I am fine with the proposal, if there 
is consensus that we need it. A change to calendar days does make sense 
as business days vary.
Volker
> Thanks Volker,
>
> Please expand a little to clarify your concern OR can it be answered by one
> or both the following two possible tweaks here:
>
> 1. We convert 8 business days to 10 calendar days which seems broadly
> consistent with the intent of the original wording and yet achieves the
> global meaning.
> 2. We make it exactly 10 calendar days i.e. we have a variable cut-off time
> depending on the time of the meeting.
> (Downside to this is that 23h59 UTC is always the same, therefore easily
> memorable.  However, a variable time should work provided it is always
> clearly stated in the notice).
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 23 April 2013 14:46
> To: Zahid Jamil
> Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Wendy Seltzer; Marika Konings;
> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
>
> While I support this in general, I am not sure we really need such a policy.
> The proposed language cuts the time available for bringing motions short for
> our American councillors compared to right now.
>
> Volker
>
> > I support Wendy's language.
> >
> >
> >
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> > On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:30, "Jonathan Robinson"
> <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I am in support of Wendy's wording (with a minor tweak) as follows:
> > >
> > > Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for
> > > inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 23:59
> > > UTC on the day, 8 calendar days before the GNSO Council meeting.
> > >
> > > Any concerns or objections, please raise ASAP otherwise I suggest we
> > > post for public comment.
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wendy Seltzer [mailto:wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 18 April 2013 14:55
> > > To: Marika Konings; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
> > >
> > >
> > > On 04/18/2013 08:30 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > Per our discussion during the wrap up session, I can confirm that
> > > > the Bylaws require that any changes to the GNSO Operating Procedures
> > > > are subject to a minimum 21 day public comment period ('The GNSO
> > > > Operating Procedures shall be effective upon the expiration of a
> > > > twenty-one (21) day public comment period, and shall be subject to
> > > > Board oversight and review' - see article X, section 3, item 4,
> > > http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#X).
> > > > With best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Marika
> > > Thanks Marika,
> > >
> > > The current language of our Operating Procedures is: "Reports and
> > > motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for inclusion on the
> > > agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 8 business days before
> > > the GNSO Council meeting."
> > >
> > > To provide precision and uniformity, I propose we amend it to: ..."no
> > > later than 23:59 UTC on the day 8 calendar days before the GNSO Council
> meeting."
> > > --Wendy
> > >
> > >
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