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RE: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board
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- Subject: RE: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board
- From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:06:20 -0000
- Cc: "'Wendy Seltzer'" <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Neuman, Jeff'" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Thanks Joy,
Any comments on the nature or substance of the topics, feel free to
contribute.
Which I know you will.
I'll update the Council on progress with our proposed meeting with the GAC
tomorrow.
Jonathan
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From: joy [mailto:joy@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 March 2013 22:01
To: Jonathan Robinson
Cc: 'Wendy Seltzer'; 'Neuman, Jeff'; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing /
Council-Board
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Hi Jonathan - I think that is a sensible approach and has more of a
constructive dialogue flavour, which I think has been lacking.
Thanks for your work
Joy
On 27/03/2013 10:17 a.m., Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>
> All,
>
> My suggested process is as follows:
>
> 1. Create an agreed list of topics (which may need to be pared
> back) 2. Seek volunteers to introduce and open the topic in the
> discussion in Beijing
>
> In order to prepare, I met with Steve Crocker late last week and
> talked with him about how we might best interact. I shared with him my
> sense that our interactions have not always been productive and that
> we have, at least at times in in some prior interactions, talked past
> one another. As a consequence, we agreed to experiment with a new
> approach as follows:
>
> We (the GNSO Council) define topics we wish to discuss with the board.
> Say 3-5 topics. The board will leave that to us. We pull together a
> sub-group of Councillors who can introduce these topics effectively
> and, prior to meeting with the board, discuss them with GNSO board
> members Bruce Tonkin and Bill Graham. The purpose of working with Bill
> & Graham is to develop and frame the topics in a way which will be
> most constructive in our interaction with the board.
>
> So far, we have some topics on the list as follows:
>
> 1. Multi-stakeholder model & processes and recent activities that
> challenge the model. 2. The concept of Public Interest within the
> ICANN model 3. ICANN engagement & outreach 4. New constituencies
>
> I urge you to come forward and support these, suggest that they are
> modified or removed and, potentially, offer to lead these.
>
> I feel we are at a pivotal point in time for many reasons. We have an
> opportunity to take advantage of face-to-face interaction with the
> Board and engage effectively.
>
> I look forward to further input from you and then engaging Bill &
> Bruce on this next week. I hope I haven't left out previous
> suggestions, please remind me if I have.
>
> Thank-you,
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
> Sent: 20 March 2013 14:58 To: Jonathan Robinson Cc: 'Neuman, Jeff';
> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council
> Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board
>
>
> Thanks Jonathan and Jeff,
>
> For our meeting with the Board, NCSG agrees that multistakholder
> engagement should be top of the agenda (we noted the issue as
> Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism versus ICANN unilateralism).
>
> In addition, we'd suggest consideration of Definition of the "public
> interest" at ICANN; ICANN engagement & outreach plans; and possibly
> New constituencies.
>
> Best, -Wendy
>
> On 03/19/2013 03:10 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>> Thanks Jeff. I agree and think it may even be necessary to go back
>> to first principles on the function and role of the GNSO Council
>> within the GNSO and in the context of the overall multi-stakeholder
>> model.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 19 March
>> 2013 19:01 To: Jonathan Robinson; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject:
>> RE: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing
>>
>>
>>
>> With the Board, I think it is imperative that we talk about our views
>> on the multi-stakeholder process and the recent measures we have seen
>> that we believe erode away at that model.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Robinson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:48 PM To:
>> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council
>> Meetings in Beijing
>>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> We are on track with a team to work with peers in the ccNSO in order
>> to develop the proposed topics for our meeting with the ccNSO.
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as our prospective meeting with the GAC Is concerned, that is
>> still work in progress, so for now that leaves meeting with the ICANN
>> Board and the CEO.
>>
>>
>>
>> Typically in the past, these meetings have consisted of our topics /
>> their topics and my sense is that we have, at least at times, talked
>> past one another.
>>
>> However, it is clearly still very useful to have a view on key areas
>> we like to see covered in our interaction with the CEO and the board
>> and to do the preparatory work on these.
>>
>>
>>
>> With the above in mind, I'd welcome input that proposes topics for
>> either or both of these interactions.
>>
>> Once we settle on the topics (I have contacted both the board and the
>> CEO in order to collaborate on these) we'll likely need volunteers to
>> develop the topics and potentially lead the discussions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Therefore, please can you propose one or more topics for either or
>> both sessions (with CEO and Board) as soon as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank-you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>
>
> -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx +1 617.863.0613 Policy Counsel,
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet &
> Society at Harvard University Visiting Fellow, Yale Law School
> Information Society Project http://wendy.seltzer.org/
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>
>
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