Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board

[joy <joy@xxxxxxx>]

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Hi Jonathan - I think that is a sensible approach and has more of a
constructive dialogue flavour, which I think has been lacking.
Thanks for your work
Joy

On 27/03/2013 10:17 a.m., Jonathan Robinson wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> My suggested process is as follows:
> 
> 1. Create an agreed list of topics (which may need to be pared
> back) 2. Seek volunteers to introduce and open the topic in the
> discussion in Beijing
> 
> In order to prepare, I met with Steve Crocker late last week and
> talked with him about how we might best interact. I shared with him
> my sense that our interactions have not always been productive and
> that we have, at least at times in in some prior interactions,
> talked past one another. As a consequence, we agreed to experiment
> with a new approach as follows:
> 
> We (the GNSO Council) define topics we wish to discuss with the
> board.  Say 3-5 topics.  The board will leave that to us. We pull
> together a sub-group of Councillors who can introduce these topics 
> effectively and, prior to meeting with the board, discuss them with
> GNSO board members Bruce Tonkin and Bill Graham. The purpose of
> working with Bill & Graham is to develop and frame the topics in a
> way which will be most constructive in our interaction with the
> board.
> 
> So far, we have some topics on the list as follows:
> 
> 1. Multi-stakeholder model & processes and recent activities that
> challenge the model. 2. The concept of Public Interest within the
> ICANN model 3. ICANN engagement & outreach 4. New constituencies
> 
> I urge you to come forward and support these, suggest that they are
> modified or removed and, potentially, offer to lead these.
> 
> I feel we are at a pivotal point in time for many reasons.  We have
> an opportunity to take advantage of face-to-face interaction with
> the Board and engage effectively.
> 
> I look forward to further input from you and then engaging Bill &
> Bruce on this next week.  I hope I haven't left out previous
> suggestions, please remind me if I have.
> 
> Thank-you,
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer 
> Sent: 20 March 2013 14:58 To: Jonathan Robinson Cc: 'Neuman, Jeff';
> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO
> Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board
> 
> 
> Thanks Jonathan and Jeff,
> 
> For our meeting with the Board, NCSG agrees that multistakholder
> engagement should be top of the agenda (we noted the issue as
> Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism versus ICANN unilateralism).
> 
> In addition, we'd suggest consideration of Definition of the
> "public interest" at ICANN; ICANN engagement & outreach plans; and
> possibly New constituencies.
> 
> Best, -Wendy
> 
> On 03/19/2013 03:10 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>> Thanks Jeff.  I agree and think it may even be necessary to go
>> back to first principles on the function and role of the GNSO
>> Council within the GNSO and in the context of the overall
>> multi-stakeholder model.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 19 March
>> 2013 19:01 To: Jonathan Robinson; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject:
>> RE: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the Board, I think it is imperative that we talk about our
>> views on the multi-stakeholder process and the recent measures we
>> have seen that we believe erode away at that model.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business
>> Affairs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Robinson Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:48 PM To:
>> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council
>> Meetings in Beijing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We are on track with a team to work with peers in the ccNSO in
>> order to develop the proposed topics for our meeting with the
>> ccNSO.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As far as our prospective meeting with the GAC Is concerned, that
>> is still work in progress, so for now that leaves meeting with
>> the ICANN Board and the CEO.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Typically in the past, these meetings have consisted of our
>> topics / their topics and my sense is that we have, at least at
>> times, talked past one another.
>> 
>> However, it is clearly still very useful to have a view on key
>> areas we like to see covered in our interaction with the CEO and
>> the board and to do the preparatory work on these.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With the above in mind, I'd welcome input that proposes topics
>> for either or both of these interactions.
>> 
>> Once we settle on the topics (I have contacted both the board and
>> the CEO in order to collaborate on these) we'll likely need
>> volunteers to develop the topics and potentially lead the
>> discussions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Therefore, please can you propose one or more topics for either
>> or both sessions (with CEO and Board) as soon as possible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank-you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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