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AW: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES


Hi everybody
 
below are a number of recognized organisations which have the same acronym 
(IOC) as the International Olympic Committee
*       Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Intergovernmental_Oceanographic_Commission>
 
*       International Ornithological Committee 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/International_Ornithological_Committee>
 
*       International Oil Company 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/w/index.php?title=International_Oil_Company&action=edit&redlink=1>
 
*       Indian Oil Corporation 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Indian_Oil_Corporation> 
*       Icon of Coil 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Icon_of_Coil> , a Norwegian 
Musicgroup
*       International Outreach Church (which has www.ioc.org) 

IOC stands also for 

*       Inversion of Control 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Inversion_of_Control> 
*       International Organized Crime
*       Integrated optical circuit
*       Initial Operating Capability 
<https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Initial_Operating_Capability>  

BTW, www.ioc.info or www.ioc.biz are available (via Network Solutions)

Here is what you will find under www.ioc.com

Registrant:
Inter Office Communications Inc
PO BOX 618
New Palestine, IN 46163
US

Domain Name: IOC.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Brant, Steven B  
<http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=171e626d49e711bb51893ec429cf9ebf> 
Inter Office Communications Inc
PO BOX 618
New Palestine, IN 46163
US
317.861 5198 fax: 317.861 5198

Record expires on 30-Dec-2015.
Record created on 28-Dec-1994.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.NETFRONTS.COM 
NS2.NETFRONTS.COM


Difficult to say what will go and what not ;-((((

 

wolfgang

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Von: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx im Auftrag von Volker Greimann
Gesendet: Fr 09.11.2012 17:35
An: Jen Wolfe
Cc: Neuman, Jeff; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF 
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC 
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES



Hi Jen,

the legal protections of the terms in question for the IOC and the RCRC are not 
all-encompassing, i.e. do not affect existing rights or use in totally 
unrelated areas. Many trademarks for the term Olympic exist that the IOC can do 
nothing about. Such other legitimate enterprises may normally be entitled to 
register, own and use the domain name olympic.nyc, as an example. The special 
legal protection affords it protection against illegitimate use or as you say 
the attempt to leverage the goodwill associated with the IOCs brands, but there 
is no right of the IOC that prevents legitimate uses of the term.

The negative effect results from the fact that the proposed policy would 
effectively exclude legitimate applicants from the registration of the desired 
name in the sunrise of a TLD. 

Do not forget that these terms may also carry meaning beyond the protected use. 
Olympic for example can reference a specific regional origin, the mountain of 
the greek gods, etc.

I am not suggesting there should not be any protection, but the protection that 
is there should be reasonable and measured to prevent abuse but allow 
legitimate use.

Best regards,

Volker




        Hi Jeff & Volker,

         

        I apologize if I am asking an overly simplistic question as one of the 
new GNSO Council members, but isn't the purpose of this motion and PDP to 
ensure that internet users are not misdirected when looking for the one true 
Red Cross or IOC?  If I am reading the motion correctly, the intention is to 
reserve only exact matches.  How is Olympic paints impacted negatively by this 
reservation?  They chose their brand knowing there is a one true IOC and, most 
likely, intended to leverage the goodwill associated with the Olympic name.  It 
would seem it is in the interest of the greater internet community to protect 
the IOC and Red Cross versus brand owners in terms of reservations of rights.  
But again, I'm new to the council, so I apologize if I am missing any history 
here that has already addressed this issue.    

         

        With kindest regards,

         

        Jennifer

         

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        From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann
        Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:52 AM
        To: Neuman, Jeff
        Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST 
ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL 
OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES

         

        Hi Jeff,
        
        even if the reservation is temporary this will result in that the 
potential applicants are effectively disenfranchised from the opportunity to 
participate in the Sunrise periods of any given TLD. I don't think that 
registry operators and registrars will be willing to entertain a second sunrise 
in each and every new TLD just for these strings, which would mean that rights 
holders would have to compete with other third parties once the reservation 
were lifted.
        
        While the IOC and RCRC have internationally established protections in 
place, these protections are not all-encompassing and allow for other 
legitimate uses of these terms. Consequently, any protections for these strings 
we implement in addition to the existing protections should also take into 
consideration other legitimate rights. 
        
        I am not opposed to additional protections in general, however these 
should be fair and balanced. I agree that the worst case scenario you detail is 
a distinct problem, but there should be possible solutions for that issue, such 
as a specific warning for registering parties at the time of application for 
sunrise validation, or the right to participate in the sunrise despite the 
reservation (i.e. the sunrise application would not automatically fail as with 
standard reservations, but either remain pending until the PDP is done, or be 
processed as usual but lead  to a right to register upon availability instead 
of instant registration). 
        
        I agree that we should avoid being cornered by our current decision if 
the PDP comes out differently, I am just looking for more flexibility to allow 
for alternative solutions that would achieve the same goal.
        
        Best,
        
        
        Volker Greimann

                Volker,

                 

                Please note that the recommendations are for temporary 
reservations pending the outcome of the PDP.  You may be correct in your 
ultimate conclusion and that may be the way the PDP comes out.  But out of 
practicality, if the PDP comes out the other way (that the names should be 
protected), then the only way to realistically implement that would be if the 
names were reserved in the first place.  It would be impossible to take back 
the names once they are registered by third parties.  Therefore, the Drafting 
Team believes that the names should be reserved initially until the PDP is 
completed.  Worst case scenario if we adopt this measure is that the PDP comes 
out that the names should not be protected and then we allow for the release of 
the names at that time.  If we took your approach and the names should have 
been protected (assuming the PDP comes out that way), we are stuck.

                 

                I hope this helps explain the Drafting Team position without in 
any way downplaying your opposition to the ultimate reservation.
                
                Thanks.

                 

                Jeffrey J. Neuman
                Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
                
                
                

                 

                From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:49 AM
                To: Neuman, Jeff; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE 
FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND 
INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES

                 

                Dear Jeff, dear fellow councillors,
                
                not trying to ruffle any feathers here, especially at this late 
stage, but I have strong objections to the concept of implementing blanket 
mandatory restrictions to the legitimate rights of potential domain owners to 
apply for certain strings on the second level based solely on the lobbying 
power of the IOC and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. The proposed reserving of the 
listed terms effectively removes the ability of other potential rights holders 
in these strings to apply for their trademarks or other name rights in the 
sunrise phase of any newly launched gTLD, especially since the TMCH warning 
process would provide the protected entities and the applicant with ample 
warning of the potential conflict during the launch. Only once the minimum 
duration of the TMCH protection in newly launched TLDs expires does further 
protection become necessary.
                
                A quick search shows numerous such potential applicants for the 
string "Olympic" alone: restaurants, an airline, a paint company, a travel 
agency, hotels, a college, a dairy company and many more, none of which 
infringe upon the legally protected rights of the above organizations by use of 
the string "olympic". The blanket restriction therefore seems as an overreach, 
especially since effective protection mechanisms are already implemented during 
the launch.
                
                A more differentiated approach therefore seems appropriate, 
such as a requirement for new gTLD registries to add the affected strings to 
the reserved list only after the TMCH is no longer effective for the TLD, or 
allowing Sunrise applications despite the restriction. 
                
                While I understand and agree with the need to implement some 
form of protections for the above organizations, such protections should not 
infringe on third party rights to apply for the registration of domain names 
that match their legal rights in an undue manner.
                
                Best,
                
                Volker Greimann
                
                
                
                
                
                

                        All,

                         

                        On behalf of the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team, I am pleased 
to present the following motion which was supported by the Drafting Team.  For 
the record, I will note that the recommendations were not supported by the 
Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group and Thomas Rickert, but were supported by the 
Registries Stakeholder Group, the, Intellectual Property Constituency, Business 
Constituency and ISP Constituency, the representative from the ALAC, and those 
representatives from the International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red 
Crescent.  The Registrars Stakeholder group did not participate on the Drafting 
Team.

                         

                        Thanks.

                        
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                         

                         

                        MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF 
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC 
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES 

                         

                        Made by: Jeff Neuman

                        Seconded by:

                         

                        WHEREAS:

                         

                        The Board Resolution 2011.06.20.01, authorized "the 
President and CEO to implement the new gTLD program which includes . . . 
incorporation of text concerning protection for specific requested Red Cross 
and IOC names for the top level only during the initial application round, 
until the GNSO and GAC develop policy advice based on the global public 
interest, . . ." 
(http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm)

                         

                        The IOC/RC Drafting Team established [Date] by the GNSO 
Council has considered a number of different options with respect to 
protections of both the IOC and the RCRC terms in response to the GAC proposal 
to provide permanent protection for such terms including at the second level in 
new gTLDS; 

                         

                        The solution proposed by the IOC/RC Drafting Team, to 
initiate a PDP and to provide temporary reservation of the exact match IOC/RC 
names, was posted for public comment on 28 September 2012 and closed on 9 
November 2012; 

                         

                        The GNSO has now [Date] initiated a policy development 
process (PDP) to evaluate possible protections for certain international 
organization names in all gTLDs, including, specifically, whether to recommend 
policies to protect IOC/RCRC names; and

                         

                        Therefore, the IOC/RC Drafting Team recommends that the 
GNSO Council recommend to the Board that it adopt the second recommendation of 
the IOC/RC Drafting Team, providing for temporary reservation of the exact 
match IOC/RC names,  prior to the delegation of the first round of new gTLDs. 

                         

                        NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED: 

                         

                        That the GNSO Council adopts the IOC/RC Drafting Team's 
recommendation to temporarily reserve the exact match of IOC and RCRC second 
level domain names listed in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant Guidebook and 
per the GAC recommendation of 14 September 2011pending the outcome of the 
recently launched policy development process involving International 
Governmental and Non-governmental Organizations.

                         

                        That the GNSO Council thanks the members of the IOC/RC 
Drafting Team for their efforts in producing these recommendations, and hereby 
disbands the IOC/RC Drafting Team; and

                         

                        That the Chair of the GNSO Council is authorized to 
forward these recommendations to the ICANN Board.

                         

                         

                        Jeffrey J. Neuman
                        Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
                        46000 Center Oak Plaza, Sterling, VA 20166
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www.neustar.biz <http://www.neustar.biz/>  

                         

                
                
                
                
                

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