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RE: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Thank you all and I apologize if I jumped the gun on asking clarifying
questions via email or if I was out of turn at all. I'll look forward to the
discussion next week! Have a great weekend!
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From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:04 PM
To: Jen Wolfe; Volker Greimann
Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
All of this is good stuff for the ultimate discussion next week. In short,
there are strong arguments in favor of protections as well as strong arguments
for lesser or no protections for the organizations. In the end, the Drafting
Team was tasked with evaluating the GAC proposal submitted to the Council in
September 2011 and after much deliberation, including a public comment period,
the conclusion that was reached by the Drafting Team was that pending the
outcome of the PDP, a moratorium on the registration of the exact matches of
those strings should be in place. The Council is free to accept this
recommendation or not.
Volker - to address your point, I fully expect that if the outcome of the PDP
were to allow the registration of these names, a process would be held to do
that. Much like the 1 and 2 character names that were previously reserved then
subsequently allowed went through. Whether that is a second sunrise, RFP
process, first-come, first-served, etc. is the discussion that will happen IF
the outcome of the PDP is that the name should be released. I understand your
concerns, and the Drafting Team did discuss all of those concerns. But this is
the conclusion that they came to.
We will discuss more next week.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
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Subject: RE: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
HI Volker,
Thank you so much for responding and I appreciate everyone's patience as I
onboard to the council. I certainly understand the rights of trademark owners,
but to me this seems to be a more specific issue. There are thousands of
rightful trademark owners who will be competing during sunrise with other
rightful owners of the same name. And they will all face the very issue you
described.
So, is the purpose of this motion/PDP to determine as the GNSO Council that we
deem the Red Cross and IOC to be so important to the public good that they
should not be competing with the numerous other rights holders during sunrise
and that we should pre-reserve specific names for their use? Is the ultimate
question to the council, do the rights of the Red Cross and IOC supersede all
other rights because of the global nature of these organizations and importance
to all internet users? Is there any dispute or question about the global
importance of these organizations to all internet users?
I appreciate your clarification and appreciate you getting me up to speed on
prior dialogue on this issue. Thanks -have a great weekend!
Jen
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Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Hi Jen,
the legal protections of the terms in question for the IOC and the RCRC are not
all-encompassing, i.e. do not affect existing rights or use in totally
unrelated areas. Many trademarks for the term Olympic exist that the IOC can do
nothing about. Such other legitimate enterprises may normally be entitled to
register, own and use the domain name olympic.nyc, as an example. The special
legal protection affords it protection against illegitimate use or as you say
the attempt to leverage the goodwill associated with the IOCs brands, but there
is no right of the IOC that prevents legitimate uses of the term.
The negative effect results from the fact that the proposed policy would
effectively exclude legitimate applicants from the registration of the desired
name in the sunrise of a TLD.
Do not forget that these terms may also carry meaning beyond the protected use.
Olympic for example can reference a specific regional origin, the mountain of
the greek gods, etc.
I am not suggesting there should not be any protection, but the protection that
is there should be reasonable and measured to prevent abuse but allow
legitimate use.
Best regards,
Volker
Hi Jeff & Volker,
I apologize if I am asking an overly simplistic question as one of the new GNSO
Council members, but isn't the purpose of this motion and PDP to ensure that
internet users are not misdirected when looking for the one true Red Cross or
IOC? If I am reading the motion correctly, the intention is to reserve only
exact matches. How is Olympic paints impacted negatively by this reservation?
They chose their brand knowing there is a one true IOC and, most likely,
intended to leverage the goodwill associated with the Olympic name. It would
seem it is in the interest of the greater internet community to protect the IOC
and Red Cross versus brand owners in terms of reservations of rights. But
again, I'm new to the council, so I apologize if I am missing any history here
that has already addressed this issue.
With kindest regards,
Jennifer
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Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Hi Jeff,
even if the reservation is temporary this will result in that the potential
applicants are effectively disenfranchised from the opportunity to participate
in the Sunrise periods of any given TLD. I don't think that registry operators
and registrars will be willing to entertain a second sunrise in each and every
new TLD just for these strings, which would mean that rights holders would have
to compete with other third parties once the reservation were lifted.
While the IOC and RCRC have internationally established protections in place,
these protections are not all-encompassing and allow for other legitimate uses
of these terms. Consequently, any protections for these strings we implement in
addition to the existing protections should also take into consideration other
legitimate rights.
I am not opposed to additional protections in general, however these should be
fair and balanced. I agree that the worst case scenario you detail is a
distinct problem, but there should be possible solutions for that issue, such
as a specific warning for registering parties at the time of application for
sunrise validation, or the right to participate in the sunrise despite the
reservation (i.e. the sunrise application would not automatically fail as with
standard reservations, but either remain pending until the PDP is done, or be
processed as usual but lead to a right to register upon availability instead
of instant registration).
I agree that we should avoid being cornered by our current decision if the PDP
comes out differently, I am just looking for more flexibility to allow for
alternative solutions that would achieve the same goal.
Best,
Volker Greimann
Volker,
Please note that the recommendations are for temporary reservations pending the
outcome of the PDP. You may be correct in your ultimate conclusion and that
may be the way the PDP comes out. But out of practicality, if the PDP comes
out the other way (that the names should be protected), then the only way to
realistically implement that would be if the names were reserved in the first
place. It would be impossible to take back the names once they are registered
by third parties. Therefore, the Drafting Team believes that the names should
be reserved initially until the PDP is completed. Worst case scenario if we
adopt this measure is that the PDP comes out that the names should not be
protected and then we allow for the release of the names at that time. If we
took your approach and the names should have been protected (assuming the PDP
comes out that way), we are stuck.
I hope this helps explain the Drafting Team position without in any way
downplaying your opposition to the ultimate reservation.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:49 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF
NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC
COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Dear Jeff, dear fellow councillors,
not trying to ruffle any feathers here, especially at this late stage, but I
have strong objections to the concept of implementing blanket mandatory
restrictions to the legitimate rights of potential domain owners to apply for
certain strings on the second level based solely on the lobbying power of the
IOC and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. The proposed reserving of the listed terms
effectively removes the ability of other potential rights holders in these
strings to apply for their trademarks or other name rights in the sunrise phase
of any newly launched gTLD, especially since the TMCH warning process would
provide the protected entities and the applicant with ample warning of the
potential conflict during the launch. Only once the minimum duration of the
TMCH protection in newly launched TLDs expires does further protection become
necessary.
A quick search shows numerous such potential applicants for the string
"Olympic" alone: restaurants, an airline, a paint company, a travel agency,
hotels, a college, a dairy company and many more, none of which infringe upon
the legally protected rights of the above organizations by use of the string
"olympic". The blanket restriction therefore seems as an overreach, especially
since effective protection mechanisms are already implemented during the launch.
A more differentiated approach therefore seems appropriate, such as a
requirement for new gTLD registries to add the affected strings to the reserved
list only after the TMCH is no longer effective for the TLD, or allowing
Sunrise applications despite the restriction.
While I understand and agree with the need to implement some form of
protections for the above organizations, such protections should not infringe
on third party rights to apply for the registration of domain names that match
their legal rights in an undue manner.
Best,
Volker Greimann
All,
On behalf of the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team, I am pleased to present the following
motion which was supported by the Drafting Team. For the record, I will note
that the recommendations were not supported by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder
Group and Thomas Rickert, but were supported by the Registries Stakeholder
Group, the, Intellectual Property Constituency, Business Constituency and ISP
Constituency, the representative from the ALAC, and those representatives from
the International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. The
Registrars Stakeholder group did not participate on the Drafting Team.
Thanks.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED
CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Made by: Jeff Neuman
Seconded by:
WHEREAS:
The Board Resolution 2011.06.20.01, authorized "the President and CEO to
implement the new gTLD program which includes . . . incorporation of text
concerning protection for specific requested Red Cross and IOC names for the
top level only during the initial application round, until the GNSO and GAC
develop policy advice based on the global public interest, . . ."
(http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm)
The IOC/RC Drafting Team established [Date] by the GNSO Council has considered
a number of different options with respect to protections of both the IOC and
the RCRC terms in response to the GAC proposal to provide permanent protection
for such terms including at the second level in new gTLDS;
The solution proposed by the IOC/RC Drafting Team, to initiate a PDP and to
provide temporary reservation of the exact match IOC/RC names, was posted for
public comment on 28 September 2012 and closed on 9 November 2012;
The GNSO has now [Date] initiated a policy development process (PDP) to
evaluate possible protections for certain international organization names in
all gTLDs, including, specifically, whether to recommend policies to protect
IOC/RCRC names; and
Therefore, the IOC/RC Drafting Team recommends that the GNSO Council recommend
to the Board that it adopt the second recommendation of the IOC/RC Drafting
Team, providing for temporary reservation of the exact match IOC/RC names,
prior to the delegation of the first round of new gTLDs.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the GNSO Council adopts the IOC/RC Drafting Team's recommendation to
temporarily reserve the exact match of IOC and RCRC second level domain names
listed in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant Guidebook and per the GAC
recommendation of 14 September 2011pending the outcome of the recently launched
policy development process involving International Governmental and
Non-governmental Organizations.
That the GNSO Council thanks the members of the IOC/RC Drafting Team for their
efforts in producing these recommendations, and hereby disbands the IOC/RC
Drafting Team; and
That the Chair of the GNSO Council is authorized to forward these
recommendations to the ICANN Board.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
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