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RE: [council] Action items from Prague / GNSO Review
Stephane --
How about starting from the top down? What is it the council intends to
accomplish for the week in Toronto? The answer to that question will inform
the structure of the week.
Council work grew backward into Saturday and Sunday a few years ago because of
the volume of work. If the council doesn't intend to self-regulate its own
work, those two days will be insufficient and we'll be looking at three days of
prep instead of two. We need a new way to manage our work burden and prepare
for interactions at meetings. And now we're trying to fit brainstorming (which
is a worthy activity) into a calendar already too full to handle.
The questions I would ask are these:
- We are brainstorming so that what happens? (I'm all for it as long as it's
productive.)
- Is there an alternative way to prepare for the Toronto week so that we free
some time for brainstorming?
I suggest we answer the first in as detailed a ways as possible, and consider
the second. Perhaps starting very early (well before Toronto) we can prepare
at least some of the work before we arrive at the meeting. Yes, I realize the
month before a meeting has crushing workloads, but if we don't do something,
the alternative is more punishing -- two full prep days Sat and Sun, our full
constituency day Tuesday, our public meeting Wednesday, and wrap-up Thursday.
And that's just the administration -- it doesn't include other GNSO-related
business (WG meetings, joint meeting with ccNSO, etc.).
I am happy to help with this process. It may be that we change how we manage
our work during Toronto and beyond.
Mason
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Thomas Rickert
Sent: Tue 7/10/2012 1:46 PM
To: Stéphane Van Gelder
Cc: GNSO Council List
Subject: Re: [council] Action items from Prague / GNSO Review
Hi Stéphane,
thanks for your feedback.
Just two points:
Re Fridays: I guess it is not getting Fridays back for the sake of getting
Fridays back, but to provide some space for people to think out of the box.
I would agree that the format would be too constraining for the GNSO Council.
However, this was designed for the community as such, not the GNSO Council
(which is why I said that it could be considered off-topic). For the whole
community, I guess that some structure is needed and the reports are meant to
fill in the rest of the community that was not present in the breakout session.
However, your point is well taken that the participants of the breakout
sessions might chose just to talk confidentially and have nothing documented.
Best,
Thomas
Am 10.07.2012 um 22:33 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:
Thanks Thomas.
Thanks for starting this discussion. I think it's a great one to have,
and I will respond in my personal capacity only.
I am surprised that people are so keen to reinstate Fridays. It amazes
me how uncomfortable with change people seem to be. IMO, the simple truth is
that ICANN meetings could go on for 3 weeks and we'd still not have enough time
to cover everything we'd like to. So a line has to be drawn somewhere. I
continue to applaud Steve's decision to cut Fridays and to draw that line, so I
would not be in favour of bringing a full day of meetings back to Fridays.
On the format you suggest for discussions, I find it well thought out
but constraining. I would much rather have free discussion than a format that
is so pre-ordered, right down to the requirement to provide a written report at
the end. I think what we in the GNSO have found is that the great nature of our
wrap-up discussions is that they are free. No agenda, no minutes, no report.
Hope that helps get the discussion going.
Stéphane Van Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France
----------------
Registry Relations and Strategy Director
Group NBT
Le 9 juil. 2012 à 18:11, Thomas Rickert a écrit :
Stéphane, all,
first of all, thanks for the letter to Fadi!
As regards time to discuss, I would like to share some thoughts
with you.
In Prague, Mary, Bill, Chuck and Bertrand hat a good informal
conversation about this very subject and were brainstorming if and what could
potentially be done on Fridays. I guess that is what Bill alluded to when
talking about "ICANN generally, not just GNSO".
Bertrand asked me to write down my ideas on this, which I did
and which you find below. Please bear with me if you regard this as off topic
as it does not deal with the GNSO Council meeting agenda, but I thought it
might be of interest.
***
Preface:
It is felt by part of the community that the ICANN agenda is
usually packed and does not allow for in-depth discussions particularly when it
comes to "visionary" or strategic topics. Also, there may be the need to
provide a forum for discussions that may or may not be on the agenda during
ICANN meetings or where another format than the public forum is needed.
With this proposal, I would like to outline a potential format
to meet the above needs and encourage broader and more active participation.
Offering the possibility to discuss face to face and in depth
- in small groups
- on particular questions and
- topics that are more of a strategic or niche character
may be useful to reach out to those members of the community
that would usually not speak up or that do not have the resources to regularly
engage in groups or projects.
How to pick topics and introduce the format?
It may be worthwhile having a session on Monday to explain the
format and invite the community to propose subjects to be discussed on Friday.
The proposing person should write a brief summary of the topic he or she wishes
to discuss including a bit of background information, if deemed useful. There
should be a character limit, e.g. to 500 characters.
For the first attempt, I would suggest to keep the subjects
completely open except for the fact that there needs to be relevance to ICANN's
role or the broader subject of Internet Governance. For future events, a broad
topic could be proposed to give the whole session one theme.
The deadline for collecting topics should be COB on Tuesday.
This would allow for the individual groups to discuss potential topics on
Tuesdays. Attendees should then have the opportunity to review the proposed
subjects on Wednesday and Thursday and prepare for the discussion.
The proposed subjects should be published on ICANN's website.
What could a "new Friday" look like?
The format would roughly look like as follows:
1. Plenary
The day should start with a plenary session in which the format
of the day is explained.
Those who have proposed subjects will get 2 mins each to
introduce the subject.
Afterwards, a show of hands of the participants will be carried
out to determine how many attendees are interested in the individual subjects.
To start with, I would plan for 5 subjects and have 5 rooms
prepared with a whiteboard for breakout sessions.
Rooms will then be allocated and announced for the breakout
sessions.
It is not unlikely that there will be more than 5 topics.
However, it is also not unlikely that some niche topics only find the interest
of a few people. These groups might be able to continue their discussion at the
venue even though there is not a reserved meeting room.
2. Breakout Sessions
The breakout sessions should be chaired by staff or other
persons that have skills in moderating discussions. They need not be experts in
the subject matter - in fact it may be an advantage if they are not
knowledgable in the area concerned. The chair would not only moderate the
discussion, but also keep some notes and act as rapporteur.
The chair/ rapporteur should
- make sure to ask the participants whether there are any
confidentiality requirements;
- summarize the views exchanged on the subject matter;
- reach agreement in the group on a statement on what the
outcome / next steps should be.
As regards the last point, the outcome of the session is
completely open. It may well be that a group gathers and concludes that there
should not be any further steps. Other results may be requests to a respective
body inside ICANN to further consider the topic and potentially provide for a
more formal forum to work on the subject.
3. Reconvening of the Plenary
In the plenary, the chairs / rapporteurs briefly report in 5-10
minutes each about the outcome of the breakout sessions. There should be a
brief q&a after each report to allow other community members to provide their
input.
After the session, the chairs / rapporteurs will provide ICANN
with a short written report that will be published on ICANN's website. The duty
of the chair / rapporteur ends here.
The discussions should be punctual and the result of the
sessions should NOT be that new groups are institutionalized there or other
deliverables beyond the reports are produced.
***
Best,
Thomas
Am 06.07.2012 um 21:18 schrieb Stéphane Van Gelder:
This already features as a discussion item for the next
meeting. If Councillors wish to pursue this discussion on the list before then,
please do so.
Stéphane Van
Gelder
Directeur Général / General manager
INDOM Group NBT France
----------------
Registry Relations and Strategy Director
Group NBT
Le 6 juil. 2012 à 19:18, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
I strongly believe it is way to early for a
review. Let's reserve this subject for a discussion on the next Council call
before setting up the group.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stéphane Van Gelder
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:41 PM Eastern
Standard Time
To: Winterfeldt, Brian
Cc: Wendy Seltzer; GNSO Council List
Subject: Re: [council] Action items from Prague
/ GNSO Review
Is there support from others for the creation
of a group?
I would think that the group would need to be
formalised as a DT, with a charter. Although you may wish to bring the review
forward Wendy, others clearly feel we should be doing exactly the opposite.
With such strong divergence of views, we must ensure that the mechanism we use
to discuss this issue is unambiguous and accountable.
Stéphane
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Le 6 juil. 2012 à 16:26, "Winterfeldt, Brian"
<bwinterfeldt@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
I am happy to join Wendy as apart of
the small group as well.
Best,
Brian
Brian J. Winterfeldt
Partner
bwinterfeldt@xxxxxxxxxxx
Steptoe
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From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:34 AM
To: Stéphane Van Gelder
Cc: GNSO Council List
Subject: Re: [council] Action items
from Prague / GNSO Review
On 07/01/2012 07:00 AM, Stéphane Van
Gelder wrote:
GNSO Review
We have discussed two possible
alternatives: drafting a request to the SIC to delay the review and creating a
small group to look at this issue. What do we want to do?
I volunteer to be part of a small group
discussing the review. I favor
*advancing* rather than delaying the
review, as well as helping the SIC to frame it to address the challenges and
barriers to consensus-building that stem from our current siloed structure.
--Wendy
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