RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report

[<Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Jeff. It's essentially because I don't want procedural
questions or background matters to cloud the work of the DT or hold up
the process unduly that I thought I'd ask. I hope that this has made it
clearer for anyone else with similar questions as well. 

Cheers 
Mary


Mary W S Wong
Professor of Law
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
Chair, Graduate IP Programs
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From:  
"Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> 

To: 
Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>, "Gomes, Chuck"
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 

CC: 
"Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx" <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"council@gnso.icann.orgGNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
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Date:  
2/29/2012 5:00 PM 

Subject:  
RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status
Report 

Stephane is correct that the status document is not one that needs to
be put out for public comment as it is an informal document.   
   
That said, the recommendations 1-3 in the report are recommendations
from the Drafting Team that we do want feedback on for the Costa Rica
meeting and it is those recommendations that in theory would be put
before the Council at that time (not the report). 
   
I would strongly encourage everyone to get feedback on those
recommendations ASAP from your constituencies, stakeholder groups, ACs,
etc.  This is not a new request as Drafting Team members have been doing
this all along.  Circumstances here are not perfect.  No one is going to
argue with that.  We all wish we have more time, but we do not.  The GAC
has asked us to comment on their proposal to us in September with the
intention of it being implemented at the top-level in this round and we
should all strive to do that.    
   
It would be disappointing to the Drafting Team if we could not get past
the procedural issues at the council level when the Drafting Team has
worked so hard to come with a solution that actually works for the
parties involved.  So we all know what the procedural issues are.  The
Drafting Team would really appreciate any comments on the substance. 

I want to personally thank the Drafting Team for their work so far and
we will continue to work through this issues irrespective of what
happens at the Council level.

Thanks. 
   

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs 
   

  

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From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:42 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO;
gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team
Status Report 

  
Agree on both counts Chuck. My point here is that this is not something
that has come out of the DT. This is a document that Jeff drafted in his
own time, following a request from the GAC to have some supporting
documentation. 

  

To me, putting such a document out for public comment would be a step
too far from standard procedure. 

  

Stéphane 

   

  

  

Le 29 févr. 2012 à 22:34, Gomes, Chuck a écrit : 




Moreover, it is not without precedent for WG’s to request comments on
their work before they are finished. 
Chuck 
  

From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:29 PM
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO
Cc: gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team
Status Report 

  

Thanks for the clarification, Stephane - I'd asked precisely because it
occurred to me that having a formal public comment period for this
report would not be possible for a number of reasons. That said, and
assuming the Council will be asked to vote on one/some/all
recommendation(s) in Costa Rica, I can foresee problems ahead if, for
instance, the Council votes then to approve certain permanent
protections for this and future gTLD rounds based on recommendations
made by other than a formal GNSO Working Group. 

  

I would think that a few of my Council colleagues would either share my
concerns or have some of their own. If so, and assuming we agree that
should this topic come up for a vote in Costa Rica our normal deferral
process would be the worst thing we could do in terms of responsiveness
to the GAC, then we need to find ways to get feedback on the actual
recommendation(s) from all the community, in addition to input on the
various options/issues they may have already given to the DT during the
discussion process. 

  

Cheers 

Mary


Mary W S Wong 
Professor of Law 
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP 
Chair, Graduate IP Programs 
UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH
03301USAEmail: mary.wong@xxxxxxx.eduPhone:
1-603-513-5143Webpage:http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at:
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changed and now follow the convention: firstname.lastname@xxxxxxxxxxx.
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From: 

Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx> 

To: 

"council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

CC: 

<gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx> 

Date: 

2/29/2012 4:18 PM 

Subject: 

Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status
Report 

There is no official comment period planned for this. This is an
unofficial report drafted by Jeff to help with an upcoming call, and not
a document of the DT. 

  

It should therefore not be put out for public comment. 

  

Stéphane 

  

  

  

Le 29 févr. 2012 à 21:34, Neuman, Jeff a écrit : 

  



Thanks Mary.  The document is “out for public comment” now.  I would
love for it to be formally out, but some may argue that takes an act of
Council.  We have a very limited time frame here and have had valuable
input from each constituency and stakeholder group already and continue
to get more. 


Can ICANN staff put this on their page?  Any help would be appreciated.
    

  

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs 
  

  

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From: Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 3:25 PM
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Neuman, Jeff
Cc: gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report 

  

Thanks, Jeff and everyone on the DT, for some marvelously quick and
detailed work, and for a very clear and concise report. 

  

Question - will this be put out for "official" public comment? I ask
partly because of the possibility that the Council will be asked to vote
on at least some part of the report in Costa Rica, and also because the
recommendations pertain to protections that will also apply to future
new gTLD rounds. 

  

As many of you know, I definitely support a closer, better and more
responsive working relationship with the GAC; however, even leaving
aside issues with the process by which this particular issue came to the
table and has now to be resolved, I remain concerned about ad-hoc work
under the heading of "implementation" that isn't so much a natural
follow-up to the GNSO's own policy recommendations (i.e. in this case
the 2007 report on new gTLDs) but which could change or conflict with
them. I know this issue was raised during this particular DT's
discussions, as was the issue of precedent-setting, so I'm glad we're
watchful for these risks. This might, however, buttress the argument
that at the very least, a public comment be instituted prior to any
vote/action. 

  

Cheers 

Mary 


Mary W S Wong 
Professor of Law 
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP 
Chair, Graduate IP Programs 
UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH
03301USAEmail: mary.wong@xxxxxxx.eduPhone:
1-603-513-5143Webpage:http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at:
http://ssrn.com/author=437584 
As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with
the University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of
New Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have
changed and now follow the convention:firstname.lastname@xxxxxxxxxxx.
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please visit law.unh.edu 


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"Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> 

To: 

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CC: 

"gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx> 

Date: 

2/28/2012 11:43 PM 

Subject: 

[council] FW: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report 

FYI.   Please circulate amongst your constituencies, stakeholder groups
and Advisory Committees.    

  

From: Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:38 PM
To: Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx; mark.carvell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
SRadell@xxxxxxxxxxxx;stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@xxxxxxxxxxx; Neuman, Jeff
Subject: IOC/RC Drafting Team Status Report 

  

Heather, Mark and Suzanne, 

  

As promised, please find enclosed a status report from the Chair of the
IOC/RC Drafting Team of the GNSO Council that has been tasked with
advising the GNSO Council with respect to the September 2011 GAC
proposal on permanently protecting the Olympic and Red Cross names at
the top and second levels for new gTLDs.  Although this report was
shared with the members of the Drafting Team, it was drafted by me as
the Chair, and as such is not an official report from the Drafting Team.
 It represents the Chair’s current understanding of the discussions of
the Drafting Team.  Each of the recommendations addressed in this report
are still under review by the GNSO Community.  We are providing this
report to assist in the discussions between the Drafting Team,
interested GNSO Councilors and GAC members on March 2, 2012. 

  

Please feel free to forward this report to the other members of the GAC
as I will be sending this to the GNSO Council as well.  We look forward
to a productive call this Friday as well as in Costa Rica at the ICANN
meeting.    

  

Best regards, 

  

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling, VA 20166
Office: +1.571.434.5772  Mobile: +1.202.549.5079  Fax: +1.703.738.7965
/ jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx  / www.neustar.biz 

  

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