RE: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs - public comment period opened

["Mason Cole" <mcole@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Liz for the input.  I would agree with Jeff here -- comment periods for 
little apparent or unjustified reasons are not just a time problem, they are 
indicative of further freelancing of possible policy establishment outside what 
the community should reasonably be able to count on.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Mon 2/13/2012 9:42 AM
To: Liz Gasster; Stéphane Van Gelder; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; David Olive
Subject: RE: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs  - public comment 
period opened
 

To the extent that this involves policy related to the gTLDs, yes I believe 
this is something that should be discussed with the community (not just the 
council).  It is hard enough to keep up with the public comment periods that we 
know about (or that we know will be coming), but then to be expected to comment 
on additional items that come up randomly at the decision of ICANN staff is too 
much to ask.  This is especially the case where if we do not have time to 
respond, ICANN staff/Board will tell the world "We had a public comment period, 
and no one responded....and therefore (a) the public is not concerned, (b) the 
direction ICANN is headed is right, or (c) there really is not an issue."  
Although one of those conclusions may be right, it is also possible that none 
of them are right.

The point being is that we should not have random public comment periods thrown 
up by ICANN staff unless there is some clear concrete objective criteria for 
utilizing the public comment period and that criteria is followed.

Jeffrey J. Neuman 
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs


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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Liz Gasster
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:34 PM
To: Stéphane Van Gelder; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO; David Olive
Subject: RE: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs - public comment 
period opened


Stéphane, Mary, are these the questions you would like addressed by staff?

I'm curious as to: (1) 
> what prompted this particular comment period; and (2) the basis upon 
> which ICANN decides on public comment periods relating to requests for 
> clarifications/information rather than when (as is more common) 
> soliciting direct comment on pending recommendations and specific 
> policy matters.
> 
> More specifically, the ATRT had recommended that public comment 
> periods have distinct purposes (e.g. Notice of Inquiry vs Notice of 
> Policy Making), and that prioritization of these "should be 
> established based on coordinated community input and consultation with 
> staff". Can ICANN staff comment on how this is done?

The policy staff can answer questions about specific policy-related public 
comment periods.  I will direct your question about this specific comment 
period to the appropriate staff, and follow up for a response.

Regarding the ATRT requirements, this was implemented, and every 6 months the 
staff polls the SO and AC chairs and the Councils to ask about anticipated 
comment periods.  We have never received a response from any Council members 
that I know of so staff submits what we know or expect is coming up, without 
prioritization.  Filiz Yilmaz is the staff person who worked on these changes 
in conjunction with the community.

Your broader question might be something the Council should discuss to the 
degree this is a shared concern, and I would be glad to include Filiz in those 
discussions.

Thanks, Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:09 PM
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO; David Olive
Subject: Re: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs - public comment 
period opened


Can someone from the policy staff address Mary's question please?

Stéphane



Le 12 févr. 2012 à 21:14, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> 
> It surprised me, too, to read such a request for public comment. It looks 
> like ICANN being faced now with a never expected reaction - although that has 
> been discussed extensively before the window opening. Learning by doing is 
> the most effective (sometimes not efficient) way.
> 
> Kind regards
> Wolf-Ulrich
> 
> 
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> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von 
> william.drake@xxxxxx
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Februar 2012 12:34
> An: Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs - public 
> comment period opened
> 
> 
> While I'm not particularly verklempt about this, I agree with Mary that it 
> would be nice to know how and why this being done...
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> -----<Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----
> 
> =======================
> To: <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> From: <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 02/10/2012 10:52PM
> Subject: Re: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs  - public 
> comment period opened =======================
>   Maybe I'm just sleep-deprived, but I was wondering when, whether and 
> how ICANN decides to open public comment periods on ostensibly 
> non-policy issues and recommendations (as this one seems to be).
> 
> While I think it will be helpful to get public and open information 
> about the source of the perception that trademark owners feel the need 
> to defensively register at the top level, and it will certainly be 
> useful to get more suggestions as to how ICANN can better communicate 
> to trademark holders the current protections available (including the 
> option of a Legal Rights Objection process), I'm curious as to: (1) 
> what prompted this particular comment period; and (2) the basis upon 
> which ICANN decides on public comment periods relating to requests for 
> clarifications/information rather than when (as is more common) 
> soliciting direct comment on pending recommendations and specific 
> policy matters.
> 
> More specifically, the ATRT had recommended that public comment 
> periods have distinct purposes (e.g. Notice of Inquiry vs Notice of 
> Policy Making), and that prioritization of these "should be 
> established based on coordinated community input and consultation with 
> staff". Can ICANN staff comment on how this is done?
> 
> (OTOH if this comment period relates to a policy matter that might 
> lead to Board consideration or adoption of new measures per the 
> Bylaws, that opens a whole other set of issues and questions ... !)
> 
> I'm curious also as to what other Councilors and/or your constituents 
> think.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mary W S Wong
> Professor of Law
> Chair, Graduate IP Programs
> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE 
> SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH
> 03301USAEmail: mary.wong@xxxxxxx.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage:
> http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available 
> on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at:
> http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>>
> 
> 
> From: Glen de Saint Géry<Glen@xxxxxxxxx> To:"council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> GNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2/10/2012 10:50 AM
> Subject: [council] Defensive Applications for New gTLDs  - public 
> comment period opened
> 
> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-06feb12-en.htm
> 
> Defensive Applications for New gTLDs
> 
> Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 6 February 2012
> 
> Categories/Tags: Top-Level Domains
> 
> Purpose (Brief): The New gTLD Program features carefully crafted, new 
> protections for trademark owners and consumers. When considering 
> applications for new top-level names, the process is designed to 
> protect these important interests through independent objection and 
> dispute resolution processes (and other processes). However, as the 
> time of the opening of the new gTLD application window drew near, 
> parties stated their perception that they will need to submit 
> "defensive" gTLD applications as a means to protect their trademarks.
> ICANN is seeking public comment on the sources of this perception and 
> how it can be addressed
> 
> Public Comment Box Link:
> http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/newgtlds-defensive-applications
> -06feb12-en.htm
> 
> Glen de Saint Géry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://gnso.icann.org
> 
> 
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