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RE: [council] Fwd: GNSO meeting with GAC in Singapore
I find it ironic that the GAC have complained about not having their voice
heard and now, when everyone is bending over backwards to accommodate them they
choose not to see the GNSO Council - perhaps we are not important enough.
I say let them be and let them know that we hope to be able to accommodate them
in Senegal but we will have to confirm our schedule.
Let's remember they are but one body that feeds into this multi-stakeholder
community. They are no more important than any other...
Adrian Kinderis
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 10:06 PM
To: William Drake
Cc: GNSO Council
Subject: Re: [council] Fwd: GNSO meeting with GAC in Singapore
Yup, that's the general gist of what I said to Heather as well, including the
fact that Thursday sounded so difficult to me for the Council to accommodate
that I didn't think it would work.
Happy to insist on some face time with the GAC if the Council feels it wants to
push the issue. But in the end, if they feel overstreched and would like to
give the GNSO a miss this time around, it may be difficult to force them to see
us.
Stéphane
Le 12 juin 2011 à 12:47, William Drake a écrit :
Hi from Singapore
Hot and humid here, you've been warned...
I have to admit I'm puzzled that GAC has time to meet with the Board, ALAC,
ccNSO, registrars, SSAC, & review teams but none to meet with the Council.
Meanwhile dangling in the wind are some of the ideas floated in SF (sorry, SV)
such as having a joint team to explore options for including them
earlier/better in GNSO work, establishing liaisons with SGs, etc. I'd have
thought these and other ideas merited follow up. So if the most we can get is
an informal discussion, I'd be in favor of it. But Thursday looks lousy, with
public participation, IGF & JAS (at the same time, a huge pity for some of
us), Council round up and the forum; the only open slots I see would be
breakfast meeting (horrid) or the lunch break (for those who can skip Getting
Ready).
Thoughts?
BIll
On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
Councillors,
As I mentioned before, the GAC has requested that we not hold our usual meeting
with them in Singapore. I have continued to discuss this with Heather, and she
has sent me the following suggestion:
Hi Stéphane,
I do understand. The GAC is also reluctant but we have been very stretched for
some time and haven't been able to meet with other communities. There also now
2 Review Teams in addition to dealing with the previous RT recommendations. It
goes on and on.
Let 's try to arrange an informal discussion - perhaps on the Thursday? I'm
not sure what all is scheduled for Thur. though I know a few of us have a
lunch meeting and there is also the session on developing countries.
Heather
I don't think an informal meeting is really what we want. Plus, I think at this
late stage it would be hard to organise. What does the Council think?
Thanks,
Stéphane
Début du message réexpédié :
De : <Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx<mailto:Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx>>
Date : 10 juin 2011 23:24:20 HAEC
À : <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>>
Objet : RE: GNSO meeting with GAC in Singapore
Hi Stéphane,
I do understand. The GAC is also reluctant but we have been very stretched for
some time and haven't been able to meet with other communities. There also now
2 Review Teams in addition to dealing with the previous RT recommendations. It
goes on and on.
Let 's try to arrange an informal discussion - perhaps on the Thursday? I'm
not sure what all is scheduled for Thur. though I know a few of us have a
lunch meeting and there is also the session on developing countries.
Heather
-----Original Message-----
From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:03 PM
To: Dryden, Heather: SPS
Subject: Re: GNSO meeting with GAC in Singapore
Hi Heather,
Thanks for your email.
I would rather not postpone our Singapore meeting with the GAC obviously,
because I know the GNSO considers those meetings as very valuable.
However I also understand that the GAC's Singapore schedule is probably so
hectic you need to find time somewhere.
Would it be helpful to have an informal discussion between the GAC and GNSO
Chairs and VCs in Singapore?
Stéphane
Le 6 juin 2011 à 23:25,
<Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx<mailto:Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx>>
<Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx<mailto:Heather.Dryden@xxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
Dear Stéphane,
I believe that we currently have 11 - 12.30 on the Wednesday scheduled for a
GNSO/GAC meeting in Singapore. I would like to propose that we postpone the
meeting until Senegal and perhaps schedule a longer meeting of 2 or 3 hours to
permit a more in-depth discussion of how the GAC and the GNSO respectively
conduct their work. This would allow the GAC to better prepare for a
discussion of working methods (for example, how the GAC arrives at consensus
views, what we consider to be consensus etc.). This would also provide the
GNSO with the opportunity to describe/explain how you do what you do, the
implications of the new structure and how the GNSO approaches policy
development.
In Singapore, the GAC will be looking at ways to organize its work, including
how it works with other parts of the community and prepares for meetings. I
will seek GAC representatives to come forward and lead on the GNSO for the GAC.
Either way, I would be happy to meet with you in Singapore (and hopefully the
GAC vice-chairs could join if GAC volunteers have not yet been identified) to
share some thoughts.
I would like to move to greater preparation for all the GAC face-to-face
meetings (including times when the GAC is meeting by itself), with the support
of the new GAC secretariat, so that discussions can be more focused when we do
meet in person.
Do let me know what your thoughts are...
Many thanks and see you soon,
Heather
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