Re: [council] Re: ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Invitation to a preparatory meeting in Singapore

[William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx>]

Hi,

Greetings from a UN Commission on Science & Tech for Development meeting in 
Geneva, where I'm listening to government and government talk about the 
negative impacts and need for intergovernmental governance of the Internet, the 
many relevant activities of the ITU, etc.  Seems a good setting to be thinking 
about an outreach meeting focused on developing countries. Katim, may I offer 
two suggestions for your consideration?  

First, we've had four Councilors say they'd like to participate in your 
meeting, and we've not heard yet from Rafik and others who may be as well.  So 
there's clearly interest in what you're doing, which one would think it makes 
sense to cultivate and translate into engagement.  So rather than asking 
SO/AC's to each do internal selection processes that might leave some people 
unhappy and artificially restrict the scope of participation in your effort, 
could you maybe consider just doing an open planning meeting?  The turn-out is 
unlikely to be so large as to make the meeting unmanageable, and you could 
mobilize more energies…

Second, either way, it'd presumably be desirable to schedule it at a time that 
doesn't directly conflict too much for the folks who are most interested in 
contributing.  I don't know what feedback you're getting from other SO/ACs, but 
as you can see, Sunday morning's not great for those of us here.  Any way you 
could maybe do it Saturday morning, Monday afternoon, or something similar?  

Best,

Bill


On May 23, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:

> Bill,
> 
> I answered too quickly before and wrongly, I apologise. I missed the fact 
> that participation is limited to 2 people from the GNSO. I can feel the 
> headache of trying to select only 2 reps from the GNSO coming a mile away... 
> but I suppose we should put out a call for volunteers then?
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> 
> Le 23 mai 2011 à 17:09, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> As I understand it, this is just a prelim meeting (Katim, please correct me 
>> if I'm wrong). So the process AFAIK is you just stand up, wave goodbye to 
>> your fellow council members and walk over to the room where Katim's meeting 
>> is ;)
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 23 mai 2011 à 15:10, William Drake a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hello Katim
>>> 
>>> As you might guess from prior discussions going back to Nairobi, I would be 
>>> keenly interested in participating in this meeting, and not only to bask in 
>>> Stéphane's reflected glory.  
>>> 
>>> Stéphane, what's our selection process?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 23, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Katim S. Touray wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Stéphane,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sure you'll never be in a room talking to yourself, be the star 
>>>> attraction and crowd puller you are!  Leave the worry about getting people 
>>>> to show up to us.
>>>> 
>>>> A bientot!
>>>> 
>>>> Katim
>>>> 
>>>> 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> What and leave me talking to myself all alone in a big meeting room? ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Joking aside, I understand the scheduling hell that we all have to go 
>>>> through at ICANN meetings so no worries there. I am sure your meeting will 
>>>> have some Councillors in attendance, and hopefully some will also stay and 
>>>> keep me company as well ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Stéphane
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Le 23 mai 2011 à 14:56, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stéphane,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your e-mail, and sorry for the conflict.  ICANN meetings are 
>>>>> always like that because there's some much going on.  However, it would 
>>>>> be great if other GNSO Council reps, other than yourself, can attend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great week, and best wishes!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Katim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2011/5/23 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Thanks Katim.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am copying your message to the GNSO Council list so that everyone is 
>>>>> aware of this meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I note with some dismay, however, that your planned meeting on the 
>>>>> morning of Sunday 19 will clash with our GNSO weekend sessions. This may 
>>>>> prevent some Councillors from attending what sounds like a very 
>>>>> interesting meeting...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stéphane
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 22 mai 2011 à 11:42, Katim S. Touray a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I am writing to invite you to send two representatives from your 
>>>>>> SO/AC/group to attend a preparatory meeting to help organize a proposed 
>>>>>> ICANN Summit on Developing Countries.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> A number of ICANN stakeholders, and myself, have been having online 
>>>>>> discussions since early last month about having an ICANN Summit on 
>>>>>> Developing Countries.  The attached file is the original proposal for 
>>>>>> the Summit, which is aimed at providing the ICANN community an 
>>>>>> opportunity to have an in-depth discussion on developing countries, 
>>>>>> their role in ICANN, and the way forward.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> In view of the fact that the Oct. 2011 ICANN annual public meeting will 
>>>>>> be held in Dakar, Senegal, the aim is to have the Summit there.  The 
>>>>>> Summit will include presentations and discussions on the following 
>>>>>> topics:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A backgrounder on developing countries (what is a "developing country" 
>>>>>> or "least developed country," socio-economic development in these 
>>>>>> countries, Internet and ICT development in these countries)
>>>>>> ICANN and developing countries (ICANN's relationship with ccTLDs, 
>>>>>> international organizations of developing countries, governments, NGOs, 
>>>>>> and businesses in developing countries, etc)
>>>>>> Participation of Developing Countries in ICANN: Challenges, 
>>>>>> Opportunities, and the Way Forward
>>>>>> The meeting in Singapore will have about 20 or so invitees from the SOs, 
>>>>>> ACs, liaisons, other stakeholders, as well as some ICANN board members 
>>>>>> and staff.  The tentative agenda for the Singapore meeting will consist 
>>>>>> of the following:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What the proposed Summit will discuss?
>>>>>> Who will be on the panel of presenters?
>>>>>> The format for the Summit
>>>>>> (S)election of Summit Organizing Committee (SOC)
>>>>>> Additional details of the Singapore meeting are as follows:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Time: 09:00-10:30 (90 minutes)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Location: Raffles Ballroom
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Service: Simultaneous Interpretation in French and Spanish
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Please let me know when you have selected your representatives to the 
>>>>>> meeting, and who they are.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thank you in advance for your consideration, and please do not hesitate 
>>>>>> to let me know if you need any additional information from me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Katim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <ICANN Summit on Developing Countries - Proposal.doc>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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