RE: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

[<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

One more vote for B

Berard

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant
> Support Second Milestone Report
> From: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, May 17, 2011 9:23 am
> To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "'tim@xxxxxxxxxxx'" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>,       
> "'owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,       
> "'council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> So that's one vote for version B, right?
> 
> Stéphane
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> Le 17 mai 2011 à 17:54, Neuman, Jeff a écrit :
> 
> Unfortunately, I cannot commit on behalf of the rysg to that last sentence on 
> "observance" and would prefer its deletion since on our last rysg call 
> questions were raised and I am not sure it adds to the substance of the note.
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
> 
> Vice President, Law & Policy
> 
> NeuStar, Inc.
> 
> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> From: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:43 AM
> To: tim@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> Cc: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Council GNSO 
> 
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant 
> Support Second Milestone Report
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks Tim, Jeff, Mary and Alan,
> 
> This would be the proposed message then. Either (I call this version A):
> 
> Dear Peter,
> 
>  
> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it 
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and 
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as 
> possible. 
> 
> The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the 
> JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the GNSO-chartering process, in submitting 
> its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.
>  
> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the 
> Board.
> 
> 
>  
> Best regards,
> Stephane van Gelder
> GNSO Council Chair
> 
> 
> Or (this my version B):
> 
> 
> Dear Peter,
> 
>  
> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it 
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and 
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as 
> possible. 
> 
>  
> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the 
> Board.
> 
> 
>  
> Best regards,
> Stephane van Gelder
> GNSO Council Chair
> 
> 
> 
> As Olga had requested a vote, I would like to suggest that we give ourselves 
> until Thursday's meeting to vote by return email to the list on either 
> version A or B, and whichever has the most votes is the one I send.
> 
> 
> Is that acceptable to everyone?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Stéphane
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> Le 17 mai 2011 à 14:12, tim@xxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :
> No objection if you remove the last sentence. There is no chartering process 
> for CWGs. The ALAC and GNSO could not even agree on what the charter should 
> be. And at least a few of us have concerns about how and why CWGs are being 
> formed.
> 
> 
> Tim
> From:  Stéphane Van Gelder 
> 
> Sender:  owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:45:21 +0200
> To: Council GNSO
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant 
> Support Second Milestone Report
> 
> Councillors,
> 
> Please find below the NCSG's suggestion on a message which I could send to 
> the Chairman of the Board in my capacity as Chair of the GNSO.
> 
> Thanks Mary for providing this draft.
> 
> Please let me have your comments.
> 
> Stéphane
> 
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> Le 14 mai 2011 à 16:31,   a écrit :
> 
> Hi - sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the Council letter; there 
> has been some lively discussion among some NCSG folks about it.
>  
> We suggest the following draft:
>  
> Dear Peter,
> 
>  
> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it 
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and 
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as 
> possible. 
> 
> The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the 
> JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the chartering process, in submitting its 
> Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review. 
>  
> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the 
> Board.
> 
> 
>  
> Best regards,
> Stephane van Gelder
> 
> Cheers
> Mary
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Mary W S Wong
> Professor of Law
> Chair, Graduate IP Programs
> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
> Two White Street
> Concord, NH 03301
> USA
> Email: mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Phone: 1-603-513-5143
> Webpage: http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php
> Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: 
> http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> 
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> 
> From: 
> Stéphane Van Gelder
> 
> To:
> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond , Council GNSO 
> 
> Date: 
> 5/14/2011 5:18 AM
> 
> Subject: 
> [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second 
> Milestone ReportThanks Olivier.
> 
> 
> GNSO Council, FYI.
> 
> 
> A good weekend to all.
> 
> 
> Stéphane
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> Le 14 mai 2011 à 11:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :
> 
> 
> Dear Stéphane,
> 
> please find enclosed, a copy of our follow-up message to the Board including 
> ALAC comments.
> Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any query about its 
> contents.
> Have a good week-end!
> Kind regards,
> 
> Olivier
> 
> -------- Message original --------
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> Sujet:
> Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report
> 
> Date :
> Fri, 13 May 2011 20:26:34 -0700
> 
> De :
> ICANN At-Large Staff 
> 
> Pour :
> Secretary 
> 
> Copie à :
> ocl@xxxxxxx , carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx , rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx , ICANN 
> At-Large Staff
> 
> Dear all,  
> 
> 
> The At-Large staff has the honor of transmitting to you, on behalf of the 
> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC):
> 
> The Second Milestone Report of the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support 
> Working Group ( JAS WG), with a revised ALAC introduction (entitled �Status 
> of this Document�); and
> The Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone 
> Report.  
> 
> We request that these documents (attached here) be forwarded to the members 
> of the ICANN Board.   
> 
> The Second Milestone Report was received by the ALAC and the Generic Names 
> Supporting Organization (GNSO) on 7 May 2011.  Then, the At-Large staff, on 
> behalf of the ALAC, initially forwarded this Report to the Board on 9 May 
> 2011.  Please note that the Report itself has not been substantively changed 
> since the Board initially received it on 9 May.
> 
> During the period 7�13 May, comments on the Report were collected from the 
> At-Large Community.  These comments are the basis for the Statement of the 
> ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report attached here.
> 
> The ALAC ratification process for the Second Milestone Report and the ALAC 
> Statement will begin on 14 May, and the results will be forwarded to the 
> Board.
>            
> Please note that GNSO approval of this document is being conducted 
> independently and has not reached the approval stage. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, and Marilyn 
> Vernon
> ICANN At-Large Staff
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> email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org
> website: www.atlarge.icann.org
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