RE: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

[Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Is there a wider issue here too?

We should also remind the ICANN Board and indeed the staff of following 
appropriate process and that we would appreciate it if they could be mindful of 
their interactions and the direction they give.

Many of the issues with respect to the Joint WG have stemmed from their 
direction and direct interaction.

Adrian Kinderis


From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Tuesday, 17 May 2011 8:43 AM
To: tim@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support 
Second Milestone Report

Thanks Tim, Jeff, Mary and Alan,

This would be the proposed message then. Either (I call this version A):

Dear Peter,

We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it has 
not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move forward 
with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and hope to 
provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as possible.
The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the 
JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the GNSO-chartering process, in submitting 
its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.

I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

Best regards,
Stephane van Gelder
GNSO Council Chair

Or (this my version B):

Dear Peter,

We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it has 
not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move forward 
with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and hope to 
provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as possible.

I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

Best regards,
Stephane van Gelder
GNSO Council Chair

As Olga had requested a vote, I would like to suggest that we give ourselves 
until Thursday's meeting to vote by return email to the list on either version 
A or B, and whichever has the most votes is the one I send.

Is that acceptable to everyone?

Thanks,

Stéphane



Le 17 mai 2011 à 14:12, tim@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :


No objection if you remove the last sentence. There is no chartering process 
for CWGs. The ALAC and GNSO could not even agree on what the charter should be. 
And at least a few of us have concerns about how and why CWGs are being formed.


Tim
________________________________
From: Stéphane Van Gelder 
<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>>
Sender: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:45:21 +0200
To: Council GNSO<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support 
Second Milestone Report

Councillors,

Please find below the NCSG's suggestion on a message which I could send to the 
Chairman of the Board in my capacity as Chair of the GNSO.

Thanks Mary for providing this draft.

Please let me have your comments.

Stéphane



Le 14 mai 2011 à 16:31, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>> 
<Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :


Hi - sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the Council letter; there 
has been some lively discussion among some NCSG folks about it.

We suggest the following draft:

Dear Peter,

We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD 
Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the 
other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it has 
not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move forward 
with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and hope to 
provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as possible.
The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates the 
JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the chartering process, in submitting its 
Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.

I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the Board.

Best regards,
Stephane van Gelder
Cheers
Mary

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From:

Stéphane Van 
Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>>

To:

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@xxxxxxx<mailto:ocl@xxxxxxx>>, Council GNSO 
<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

Date:

5/14/2011 5:18 AM

Subject:

[council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second 
Milestone Report

Thanks Olivier.

GNSO Council, FYI.

A good weekend to all.

Stéphane



Le 14 mai 2011 à 11:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :


Dear Stéphane,

please find enclosed, a copy of our follow-up message to the Board including 
ALAC comments.
Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any query about its contents.
Have a good week-end!
Kind regards,

Olivier

-------- Message original --------
Sujet:

Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

Date :

Fri, 13 May 2011 20:26:34 -0700

De :

ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Pour :

Secretary <secretary@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:secretary@xxxxxxxxx>

Copie à :

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carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx> 
<carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx><mailto:carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx>, 
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Dear all,
The At-Large staff has the honor of transmitting to you, on behalf of the 
At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC):

 *   The Second Milestone Report of the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant Support 
Working Group ( JAS WG), with a revised ALAC introduction (entitled "Status of 
this Document"); and
 *   The Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone 
Report.
We request that these documents (attached here) be forwarded to the members of 
the ICANN Board.
The Second Milestone Report was received by the ALAC and the Generic Names 
Supporting Organization (GNSO) on 7 May 2011.  Then, the At-Large staff, on 
behalf of the ALAC, initially forwarded this Report to the Board on 9 May 2011. 
 Please note that the Report itself has not been substantively changed since 
the Board initially received it on 9 May.
During the period 7-13 May, comments on the Report were collected from the 
At-Large Community.  These comments are the basis for the Statement of the ALAC 
on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report attached here.
The ALAC ratification process for the Second Milestone Report and the ALAC 
Statement will begin on 14 May, and the results will be forwarded to the Board.

Please note that GNSO approval of this document is being conducted 
independently and has not reached the approval stage.

Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, and Marilyn 
Vernon
ICANN At-Large Staff

email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org
website: www.atlarge.icann.org<http://www.atlarge.icann.org/>



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Statement on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report - EN.pdf>