Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

[Ching Chiao <chiao@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Same here, for B.

Ching Chiao

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Robinson <
jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi,
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> Sorry for the delay.  Just back from the US.
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> I’ll go for B for the same reason as Jeff outlines below.
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> Jonathan
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> *From:* owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Neuman, Jeff
> *Sent:* 17 May 2011 16:54
> *To:* 'stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx'; 'tim@xxxxxxxxxxx'
> *Cc:* 'owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; 'council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant
> Support Second Milestone Report
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> Unfortunately, I cannot commit on behalf of the rysg to that last sentence
> on "observance" and would prefer its deletion since on our last rysg call
> questions were raised and I am not sure it adds to the substance of the
> note.
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> Thanks.
> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
> Vice President, Law & Policy
> NeuStar, Inc.
> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> *From*: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent*: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:43 AM
> *To*: tim@xxxxxxxxxxx <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc*: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Council
> GNSO <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject*: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant
> Support Second Milestone Report
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> Thanks Tim, Jeff, Mary and Alan,
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> This would be the proposed message then. Either (I call this version A):
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> Dear Peter,
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> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as
> possible.
>
> The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates
> the JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the GNSO-chartering process, in
> submitting its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.
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> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the
> Board.
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> Best regards,
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> Stephane van Gelder
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> GNSO Council Chair
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> Or (this my version B):
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> Dear Peter,
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> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as
> possible.
>
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> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the
> Board.
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> Best regards,
>
> Stephane van Gelder
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> GNSO Council Chair
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> As Olga had requested a vote, I would like to suggest that we give
> ourselves until Thursday's meeting to vote by return email to the list on
> either version A or B, and whichever has the most votes is the one I send.
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> Is that acceptable to everyone?
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> Thanks,
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> Stéphane
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> Le 17 mai 2011 à 14:12, tim@xxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :
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> No objection if you remove the last sentence. There is no chartering
> process for CWGs. The ALAC and GNSO could not even agree on what the charter
> should be. And at least a few of us have concerns about how and why CWGs are
> being formed.
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>
> Tim
> ------------------------------
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> *From: *Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
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> *Sender: *owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> *Date: *Tue, 17 May 2011 10:45:21 +0200
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> *To: *Council GNSO<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> *Subject: *Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant
> Support Second Milestone Report
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> Councillors,
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> Please find below the NCSG's suggestion on a message which I could send to
> the Chairman of the Board in my capacity as Chair of the GNSO.
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> Thanks Mary for providing this draft.
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> Please let me have your comments.
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> Stéphane
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> Le 14 mai 2011 à 16:31, <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx> a
> écrit :
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> Hi - sorry for the delay in getting back to you on the Council letter;
> there has been some lively discussion among some NCSG folks about it.
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> We suggest the following draft:
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> Dear Peter,
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> We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD
> Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second Milestone Report. As the
> other chartering organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council notes that it
> has not yet approved the Report. We acknowledge the Board's desire to move
> forward with new gTLDs, including issues relating to applicant support, and
> hope to provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as
> possible.
>
> The GNSO Council would also like to inform the Board that it appreciates
> the JAS WG's scrupulous observance of the chartering process, in submitting
> its Report simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.
>
>
>
> I would be grateful if you could convey the GNSO Council's message to the
> Board.
>
>
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> Best regards,
>
> Stephane van Gelder
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> Cheers
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> Mary
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> *Mary W S Wong*
>
> *Professor of Law*
>
> *Chair, Graduate IP Programs*
>
> *Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP*
> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAWTwo White StreetConcord, NH 03301
> USAEmail: mary.wong@xxxxxxx.eduPhone: 1-603-513-5143Webpage:
> http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.phpSelected writings available on
> the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at:
> http://ssrn.com/author=437584
>
> >>>
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> *From: *
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> Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
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> *To:*
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> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl@xxxxxxx>, Council GNSO <
> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> *Date: *
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> 5/14/2011 5:18 AM
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> *Subject: *
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> [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second
> Milestone Report
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> Thanks Olivier.
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> GNSO Council, FYI.
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> A good weekend to all.
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> Stéphane
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> Le 14 mai 2011 à 11:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond a écrit :
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> Dear Stéphane,
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> please find enclosed, a copy of our follow-up message to the Board
> including ALAC comments.
> Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any query about its
> contents.
> Have a good week-end!
> Kind regards,
>
> Olivier
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> -------- Message original --------
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> *Sujet:*
>
> Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone
> Report
>
> *Date :*
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> Fri, 13 May 2011 20:26:34 -0700
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> *De :*
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> ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> *Pour :*
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> Secretary <secretary@xxxxxxxxx> <secretary@xxxxxxxxx>
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> *Copie à :*
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> ocl@xxxxxxx <ocl@xxxxxxx> <ocl@xxxxxxx>, carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx
> <carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx> <carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx>,
> rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx> <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>,
> ICANN At-Large Staff<staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Dear all,
>
> The At-Large staff has the honor of transmitting to you, on behalf of the
> At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC):
>
>    - The Second Milestone Report of the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant
>    Support Working Group ( JAS WG), with a revised ALAC introduction
>    (entitled “Status of this Document”); and
>    - The Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second
>    Milestone Report.
>
> We request that these documents (attached here) be forwarded to the members
> of the ICANN Board.
>
> The Second Milestone Report was received by the ALAC and the Generic Names
> Supporting Organization (GNSO) on 7 May 2011.  Then, the At-Large staff,
> on behalf of the ALAC, initially forwarded this Report to the Board on 9
> May 2011.  Please note that the Report itself has not been substantively
> changed since the Board initially received it on 9 May.
>
> During the period 7–13 May, comments on the Report were collected from the
> At-Large Community.  These comments are the basis for the Statement of the
> ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report attached here.
>
> The ALAC ratification process for the Second Milestone Report and the ALAC
> Statement will begin on 14 May, and the results will be forwarded to the
> Board.
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> Please note that GNSO approval of this document is being conducted
> independently and has not reached the approval stage.
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> Regards,
>
> Heidi Ullrich, Seth Greene, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber-White, and Marilyn
> Vernon
> ICANN At-Large Staff
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> email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org
> website: www.atlarge.icann.org
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> <jas-milestone2-report-7may11-en-alac-revision.pdf><AL-ALAC-ST-0511-2 ALAC
> Statement on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report - EN.pdf>
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