Re: [council] Re: Joint ccNSO/GNSO IDN Working Group (JIG)

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Leslie.

You had asked the GNSO Council to hold off on sending the report until these 
issues had been resolved. As this is now the case, would you rather the Council 
waits until the result of your May 10th vote before sending the report?

Stéphane



Le 22 avr. 2011 à 12:25, Lesley Cowley a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks to all for your discussions to understand the concerns that were being 
> raised and to respond to them.
> 
> I believe that the issue has now been satisfactorily resolved and on that 
> basis, the report has been added to the agenda for the next ccNSO meeting on 
> the 10th May. I hope that the Council will adopt the report at that meeting.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Lesley
> 
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> From: Edmon Chung <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:57:00 +0800
> To: 'Ching Chiao' <chiao@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Stéphane Van Gelder 
> <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Lesley Cowley <lesley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 'Gabriella Schittek' 
> <gabriella.schittek@xxxxxxxxx>, 'Glen de Saint Géry' <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>, Bart 
> Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel@xxxxxxxxx>, <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [council] Re: Joint ccNSO/GNSO IDN Working Group (JIG)
> 
> Hi Ching,
>  
> Yes we do.
>  
> I believe we have clarified the issue with Patrik already.
>  
> He was worried that the JIG report removed the cross-script confusability 
> check.  I assured him that the JIG report did not suggest anything of that 
> sort.  And that cross-script confusability check was not explicitly mentioned 
> because it is not an issue specific to Single Character IDN TLDs (but affects 
> all new gTLDs as well as TLDs in any length).
>  
> The source of the misunderstanding came from the JIG report suggestion to 
> remove the requirement for 2 character IDN TLDs to not be similar to any 1 
> character string in any script.  The reason for the removal is due to the 
> fact that the recommendation to introduce 1 character IDN TLD.  If the 
> requirement was originally there because all 1 character TLDs were 
> prohibited, and therefore following the logic that any TLD string should not 
> be confusingly similar with any prohibited string, it was required that all 2 
> character IDN TLDs (in fact any character for that matter) be not confusingly 
> similar to any 1 character string in any script.  We suggested to remove that 
> because if it remained, it would have given rise to a situation where a 1 
> character IDN TLD application would be accepted while a 2 character TLD could 
> be rejected because of similarity to that 1 character IDN TLD.  Rather it 
> should not be rejected and should be considered a contention set and follow 
> the contention process.
>  
> With this clarification, I believe there is no further issues, and there does 
> not seem to be any need to update the JIG Final Report either.  As staff is 
> aware of the discussion, perhaps it could also be passed to staff in 
> implementation to prevent similar misunderstanding.
>  
> Edmon
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: ching.chiao@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:ching.chiao@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ching 
> Chiao
> Sent: April 20, 2011 9:18 AM
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder; Edmon Chung
> Cc: Lesley Cowley; Gabriella Schittek; Glen de Saint Géry; Bart Boswinkel; 
> council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Joint ccNSO/GNSO IDN Working Group (JIG)
>  
> Hi Edmon, Stéphane, All, 
>  
> Do we have an update on 1-character IDN TLD to address concern that ccNSO / 
> SSAC has? 
>  
> If we are not doing anything now (i.e. forward the JIG recommendation to the 
> Board given the new AG is out for comment) then it will put the GNSO council 
> in awkward position. 
>  
> -- Ching
>  
>  
> 
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Ching Chiao <chiao@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Stéphane,
>  
> I am copying the email below to Edmon Chung, Co-Chair of the JIG. I am also 
> very curious to learn from SSAC / ccNSO about their concern and how it was 
> handled during the working process as both were involved in the JIG. I think 
> with the report produced a general agreeable approach on handling 1-character 
> IDN TLD, and the GNSO shall request the ICANN Board / Staff to incorporate 
> this into the next version of AG (refer to the JIG suggested wording), while 
> ccNSO could take their time on the IDN ccPDP process. 
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Ching
>  
>  
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder 
> <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Lesley,
>  
> I am copying the Council on this email in order to pass your message on. Do 
> you have any idea of the timeframe for you to get the desired clarification 
> from JIG and SSAC?
>  
> Stéphane
>  
>  
>  
> Le 13 avr. 2011 à 12:38, Lesley Cowley a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi Stéphane,
>  
> I am advised that Patrick Fallstrom has raised some concerns with some of the 
> language in the JIG Final Report, as member of the SSAC sub-group. 
>  
> In the circumstances, the ccNSO will ask for clarification from JIG and SSAC, 
> before it takes any formal position/adopts the final report – would you be 
> able to hold off the passing the report to the ICANN Board and staff whilst 
> this is sorted please?
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Lesley
>  
> From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 23:55:22 +0200
> To: Lesley Cowley <lesley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Cc: Gabriella Schittek <gabriella.schittek@xxxxxxxxx>, Glen de Saint Géry 
> <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Joint ccNSO/GNSO IDN Working Group (JIG)
>  
> Leslie,
>  
> At its meeting yesterday, the GNSO Council passed the following motion on the 
> JIG. As per this motion, I wanted to inform you of the GNSO's approval of the 
> JIG's final report, as it pertains to new gTLDs.
>  
> Happy to answer any questions you may have. Please pass this on to the ccNSO 
> as you see fit.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Stéphane
>  
>  
>  
> Motion on the JIG Final Report on Single Character IDN TLDs
> ===========================================================
> 
> WHEREAS,
> The Joint ccNSO/GNSO IDN Working Group (JIG) was created by mutual charters 
> of the ccNSO (http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/jiwg-charter.pdf) and the 
> GNSO (http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/#200907);
> 
> The JIG identified 3 issues of common interest: 1. Single Character IDN TLDs; 
> 2. IDN Variant TLDs; and, 3. Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs;
> The JIG has issued an Initial Report 
> (http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/jig-initial-report-26jul10-en.pdf) for 
> public comments 
> (http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-27jul10-en.htm), and 
> thereupon a Draft Final Report 
> (http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/jig-draft-final-report-04dec10-en.pdf) 
> for public comments 
> (http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-04dec10-en.htm), and have 
> incorporated the comments into, and has reached consensus on the Final Report 
> on Single Character IDN TLDs;
> 
> The JIG recommendations are consistent with the GNSO Final Report on the 
> Introduction of New Top-Level Domains 
> (http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/pdp-dec05-fr-parta-08aug07.htm), 
> including the GNSO IDN WG Final Outcomes Report 
> (http://gnso.icann.org/drafts/idn-wg-fr-22mar07.htm) and the GNSO Reserved 
> Names WG 
> (http://gnso.icann.org/issues/new-gtlds/final-report-rn-wg-23may07.htm) on 
> the issue of Single Character IDN gTLDs; and,
> The JIG recommendations suggested implementable measures for the acceptance 
> of Single Character IDN gTLDs.
> 
> RESOLVED,
> The GNSO Council approves the JIG Final Report on Single Character IDN TLDs, 
> and forwards the report to the ICANN board and staff for its implementation 
> into the next version of the New gTLD Applicant Guidebook as it pertains to 
> the new gTLDs.
> 
> Resolved further, that the GNSO Council instructs the GNSO Chair to 
> communicate its decision to the ccNSO Chair.
> 
> RESOLVED FURTHER, that the GNSO Council hereby expresses its appreciation to 
> the JIG for their hardwork, and look forward to receiving further reports on 
> "IDN Variant TLDs" and "Universal Acceptance of IDN TLDs".
>  
> 
> 
> --
> Ching CHIAO
> Vice President, DotAsia Organisation LTD.
> Chair, Asia Pacific Networking Group
> Member of ICANN GNSO Council & RySG
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