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Re: [council] RE: Adrian Kinderis - SOI (nee DOI)

  • To: William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [council] RE: Adrian Kinderis - SOI (nee DOI)
  • From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:07:22 +0200
  • Cc: Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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We've had discussions about this already.

It's clear that the new procs with regards to DOIs are felt by most to be 
rather cumbersome. The worry is that the Council approved them, it seems 
without really realising what they entailed.

The problem here is volunteer overload. There's so much stuff coming the 
Council's way that it may be unreasonable to expect Councillors to see it all 
or to consider it all with the degree of attention it deserves.

So when we do approve something that, once put into practice turns out to be 
difficult to work with, perhaps we should have some kind of "quick fix" 
procedure so that we aren't "lumped" with cumbersome rules for months or even 


Le 7 oct. 2010 à 13:36, William Drake a écrit :

> Hi Adrian
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
>> Hells Bells.
>> Sorry folks. That is my Declaration of Interest.
>> I believe it holds true for the upcoming meeting as most topics are on new 
>> gTLD’s.
>> P.S. What is the point of all this? How would a DOI differ on a meeting to 
>> meeting basis from a SOI?
> 5.1 says an SOI pertains to "the Relevant Party's judgment, any matters to be 
> considered by the GNSO Group" [sic], whereas a DOI pertains to "the Relevant 
> Party's judgment on a specific issue,"  which presumably does not fall within 
> the scope of "any matters"…(?)
>> What is the penalty should I not do a DOI?
> 5.6 Failure to Comply only addresses an SOI, which is to be provided "prior 
> to the start of a GNSO meeting"…(?)
> Probably I'm missing something, but in retrospect the language may have 
> merited more discussion prior to approving the motion…
> Best,
> Bill
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis
>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:40 PM
>> To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [council] Adrian Kinderis - SOI
>> Adrian Kinderis - Registrar Constituency
>> I am Chief Executive Officer of AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd a company based in 
>> Melbourne, Australia and an ICANN accredited Registrar and member of the 
>> Registrar Constituency.
>> The AusRegistry Group of companies includes;
>> - AusRegistry Pty Ltd which is
>> ·        the Registry Services provider for all second level .au domain names
>> - AusRegistry International Pty Ltd which is
>> ·        a Registry Consultancy Service
>> ·        a Registry Software and infrastructure provider for ccTLD’s 
>> (including IDN ccTLD’s)
>> ·        a Registry Software and infrastructure provider around new gTLD’s 
>> (including IDN gTLD’s)
>> ·        AusRegistry International currently has no plans to apply for any 
>> new gTLD’s as a gTLD applicant (In other words there is no real change to 
>> our underlying business model - of providing technology services for Domain 
>> Name Registries and Registration)
>> I hold the position of Director in all companies above.
>> None of the companies within the AusRegistry Group are affiliated with any 
>> current gTLD Registry operator with the exception of AusRegistry Pty Ltd of 
>> which Afilias has a minority shareholding.
>> I am not in possession of any gTLD Registry proprietary or sensitive 
>> information, nor have I ever been. I am not an officer, director, 
>> consultant, or employee of any other member of this Constituency or any 
>> other ICANN Constituency. I like to collect butterflies.
>> Adrian Kinderis
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> William J. Drake
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> Centre for International Governance
> Graduate Institute of International and
>  Development Studies
> Geneva, Switzerland
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