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Re: [ga] ALAC's graveyard forum/Now an online Play

  • To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, icann people <icann-people@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] ALAC's graveyard forum/Now an online Play
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:09:53 -0700
  • Cc: denise michel <denisemichel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Esther Dyson <edyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Don Evans <DEvans@xxxxxxx>, Kathy Smith <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <20040911145141.85168.qmail@web52902.mail.yahoo.com>
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Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  Yes it is interesting reading.  And what is even more interesting is
that
the archives are incomplete/out of date by a whopping margin.  This
may be in part due to "Creative Editing" or "Selective censorship"...

  This brings some stakeholders/users to wonder or ponder, does
ICANN fear or is it disinterested in openness and Transparency
as our fellow Stakeholder/user Thomas Rossler eluded to in a
post he made yesterday?  If so, how can the ALAC claim to
be a representative or legitimate "Group" for users or
stakeholders/users?

  Ah well, the disgusting saga continues...:/

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Richard,
>
> You must have been reading my mail and tapping my phone. A good friend
> and I spent an hour going through ALAc publications and laughing our
> asses off. It is a SNL skit or a parody of individual representation.
> It is a story of a bunch of elitists playing self important games that
> claim one thing and do exactly another. The ironies could not be
> better scripted.
> The Play is showing now at; http://www.alac.icann.org/
> I promise it is a read worth every penny of the price of admission.
> It comes complete with a starring cast of charactars that all qualify
> as turncoats and people without any integrity to people who at one
> time trusted them. The two leading charactars are Vittorio Bertola
> (icannatlarge-2003) and Ester Dyson (BOD-1999) with a subplot and
> romance as thick as molasses by Thomas Russler (GA benedict arnold)
> and Denise Michel (behind the scenes-Bruto)
>
> The charactars all star in several spinnoff series that are equally
> hillarious. As with all such comedy though there is an underlying
> sadness. A pitiful reflection of man as he truly is with all his
> faults of greed and raw selfish ambition and disdain for those whom he
> thinks of as lessor than he.
>
> Eric
> Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 13 days ago I submitted a post to the ALAC "public" forum... it has
> not been published even though we are told "E-mail from the general
> public concerning ALAC activities is encouraged"...
>
> ... no mail has been published on the ALAC public forum for 135
> days...
>
> An analysis of the ALAC fora suggests they are almost dead... which is
> little surprise when you create an organisation for Individual
> Internet Users but do not allow Individual Internet Users themselves
> to vote and determine the shape and representatives of "their"
> organisation...
>
> Forum: Domain Name Registration Issues: last post: 171 days
>
> Forum: WHOIS: last post: 185 days ago
>
> Forum: Spam: last post: 171 days ago
>
> Forum: Internationalised Domain Names: last post: no post ever
> submitted
>
> Forum: New TLDs: last post: 163 days ago
>
> Forum: WIPO: last post: 135 days ago
>
> Forum: Registry Service Changes: last post: 222 days ago
>
> Forum: Verisign Redirections Policy: last post: 161 days ago
>
> Forum: Miscellaneous Comments: last post: 236 days ago
>
> Forum: At Large Organising: last post: 185 days ago
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
> I think this demonstrates pretty clearly the lack of involvement of
> ordinary internet users, and the lack of credibility of ALAC.
>
> Unfortunately ICANN does not understand that openness and democracy
> are the lifeblood of community, and that ICANN will only truely become
> representative when it allows representation?
>
> If Individual Internet Users are denied the right to determine their
> own representatives, why should they take ALAC seriously? Particularly
> when ICANN has already demonstrated its disdain for democratic
> representation by expelling the democratically elected representatives
> of the At Large from the ICANN Board.
>
> ALAC was invented by ICANN, who hired Denise Michel and co-opted
> Esther Dyson to get it started. They co-opted a handful of people, to
> try to massage it into life.
>
> These silent forums illustrate that you cannot bring back to life
> something which was dead from the start.
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Henderson
> To: forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:47 AM
> Subject: New TLDs : Public access to Miriam Sapiro's report
>
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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