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Re: [ga] ALAC's graveyard forum

  • To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [ga] ALAC's graveyard forum
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 21:54:19 -0700
  • Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Esther Dyson <edyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Don Evans <DEvans@xxxxxxx>, Kathy Smith <ksmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <000e01c497f1$27884110$2355fc3e@richard>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Richard and all former DNSO GA members, Alac participants, and
interested
stakeholders/users,

   I for one along with many or our fellow members have posted regarding

this situation in addition to several other "ICANN Forums" where public
input has been solicited, and archives of same were announced as
available,
yet none were ever posted to those archives.  This leaves one to ponder
why such comments and remarks were solicited in a manner as to be
available for public review in the first place?

Richard Henderson wrote:

>    13 days ago I submitted a post to the ALAC "public" forum... it has
> not been published even though we are told "E-mail from the general
> public concerning ALAC activities is encouraged"...
>
> ... no mail has been published on the ALAC public forum for 135
> days...
>
> An analysis of the ALAC fora suggests they are almost dead... which is
> little surprise when you create an organisation for Individual
> Internet Users but do not allow Individual Internet Users themselves
> to vote and determine the shape and representatives of "their"
> organisation...
>
> Forum: Domain Name Registration Issues: last post: 171 days
>
> Forum: WHOIS: last post: 185 days ago
>
> Forum: Spam: last post: 171 days ago
>
> Forum: Internationalised Domain Names: last post: no post ever
> submitted
>
> Forum: New TLDs: last post: 163 days ago
>
> Forum: WIPO: last post: 135 days ago
>
> Forum: Registry Service Changes: last post: 222 days ago
>
> Forum: Verisign Redirections Policy: last post: 161 days ago
>
> Forum: Miscellaneous Comments: last post: 236 days ago
>
> Forum: At Large Organising: last post: 185 days ago
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
> I think this demonstrates pretty clearly the lack of involvement of
> ordinary internet users, and the lack of credibility of ALAC.
>
> Unfortunately ICANN does not understand that openness and democracy
> are the lifeblood of community, and that ICANN will only truely become
> representative when it allows representation?
>
> If Individual Internet Users are denied the right to determine their
> own representatives, why should they take ALAC seriously? Particularly
> when ICANN has already demonstrated its disdain for democratic
> representation by expelling the democratically elected representatives
> of the At Large from the ICANN Board.
>
> ALAC was invented by ICANN, who hired Denise Michel and co-opted
> Esther Dyson to get it started. They co-opted a handful of people, to
> try to massage it into life.
>
> These silent forums illustrate that you cannot bring back to life
> something which was dead from the start.
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Henderson
> To: forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:47 AM
> Subject: New TLDs : Public access to Miriam Sapiro's report

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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