Joe Baptista - When will you make amends for what you have done to HARM TLD holders? (was Re: [ga] John Palmer - it is time to come to account)

["John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here is what has been done to safeguard "your" TLD holders:

You have been exposed for the fraud and psychopath that you are. The matter in 
Europe has been investigated
and the result is here:

http://inaic.com/index.php?p=internet-terror

You did not provide evidence of any sort, just your own writings and the 
writings of what appears to be a co-conspirator in
your attempt to extort an ownership stake in UNIDT from the original owners 
(see the link above).  I understand that
(not sure on this one) your cohort Martijn Burger may have been involved in 
this as well - this is still under
investigation by INAIC and the authorities at Public-Root.com and we will know, 
perhaps soon, the involvment (or
perhaps lack of) of Mr. Burger  in that offense.

As a stakeholder in the Inclusive Namespace, one who has an on-going registry 
business into which over US$100k has
been invested,  I witnessed the complete destruction of the best (and perhaps 
last) opportunity for INS TLD holders to
gain the visibility in the namespace that would propel the INS into the 
mainstream.

That complete destruction was caused by you, Mr. Baptista. When you couldn't 
get Marty van Veluw to bow to your extortion
attempts, you did exactly as you claimed you would and you destroyed the effort 
and along with it, probably the only
remaining hope for the INS.

After this mess, with the whole INS world in smoking ruins, ICANN was able to 
get the traction needed and launched
a very clever plot to AGREE that many TLDs could be added to the root, except 
that they would get to decide which
ones and would create a 1,000,000 Leah Gallegos's (whose .BIZ TLD they stole) 
by simply stealing what already
exists, emptying out its registrants and selling that stolen property to 
whomever will pay them their $185K and $0.20 per
registration-year. See here for what ICANN did to this poor hardworking woman:

http://www.tldainc.org/news/98-arnis-alamo-anti-competitive-icann-and-dot-biz.html

Now, all of you a of
TLDs, but only if they get to create them and still without any respect for the 
property rights of the current holders of
those TLDs.

To be frank with all of you, unless someone in the INS has deep pockets, ICANN 
will get away with it and we may
as well just go home.

As an officer of the TLDA, and an advocate of TLD holder's rights, (being a TLD 
holder myself), when I saw what
Joe did in 2005, I immediatly determined that, whether or not he was a 
psychotic, a paid ICANN shill, or whatever,
he was NO freind of INS TLD holders. He single-handedly destroyed the only 
major chance that the INS had to
go mainstream and thus enabled ICANN to complete its conquest of the namespace 
and its destruction of a free
industry by acts of wholesale theft of TLDs.

In early 2007, Joe resurfaced and put on his air of authority, claiming that he 
had been hired by some TLD holders
to be their "representative" and began pretending to have some right or 
authority over the TLDA. At that point,
the TLDA had been dormant for several years, no one wanting to make any efforts 
after the 2005 debacle.

As the last elected chairperson of the TLDA, I challenged him publically to 
stop claiming that he spoke for, or had
any authority in the TLDA. As a matter of fact, Joe was never a member of the 
TLDA officially - he CHOSE
not to join.

A big battle ensued and I was called a villan by people, including at times, 
Karl Peters, one oa of
TLDs, but only if they get to create them and still without any respect for the 
property rights of the current holders of
those TLDs.

To be frank with all of you, unless someone in the INS has deep pockets, ICANN 
will get away with it and we may
as well just go home.

As an officer of the TLDA, and an advocate of TLD holder's rights, (being a TLD 
holder myself), when I saw what
Joe did in 2005, I immediatly determined that, whether or not he was a 
psychotic, a paid ICANN shill, or whatever,
he was NO freind of INS TLD holders. He single-handedly destroyed the only 
major chance that the INS had to
go mainstream and thus enabled ICANN to complete its conquest of the namespace 
and its destruction of a free
industry by acts of wholesale theft of TLDs.

In early 2007, Joe resurfaced and put on his air of authority, claiming that he 
had been hired by some TLD holders
to be their "representative" and began pretending to have some right or 
authority over the TLDA. At that point,
the TLDA had been dormant for several years, no one wanting to make any efforts 
after the 2005 debacle.

As the last elected chairperson of the TLDA, I challenged him publically to 
stop claiming that he spoke for, or had
any authority in the TLDA. As a matter of fact, Joe was never a member of the 
TLDA officially - he CHOSE
not to join.

A big battle ensued and I was called a villan by people, including at times, 
Karl Peters, one of our board members.
I tried to get the other board members to pass a resolution condemning Joe for 
the great harm he did to our
industry in 2005, but they sided with Joe.

So, the battle raged. TLDA was restarted by Karl Peters and I eventually 
resigned (in disgust that they couldn't
see the obvious things I saw about Joe's destructiveness). I tried to convince 
them that we needed to distance
ourselves from him and that there was a minute, 
camel-through-the-eye-of-a-needle chance that we could
maybe, resurrect the INS prospects.

I eventually re-joined the TLDA. By then, Joe had insulted and abused everyone 
on the lists and eventually
called Karl Peters, the chairperson at the time, a "welfare bum" and severely 
insulting his wife and family and
then finally the other tossed Joe off the list for good.

By then, it was too late. ICANN was in full theft-mode. We had wasted what 
little time we had left and ICANN
was able to create their theft policy with no one to stop them. While it is 
still 12 - 18 months from execution, its
a done deal because everyone else has given up and no one has any money.

So, Joe, you ask what I say to the TLD holders who have been hurt?

I say that I warned them all about you after what damage YOU did to them in 
2005. I warned people over
and over again.

I think YOU need to answer the question, Joe: What have YOU done to help TLD 
holders in the INS?

The answer is that you have done everything you could possibly do to destroy 
any hopes that they would ever
be successful. You are brilliant at DESTROYING and I cannot find any evidence 
that you have ever BUILT
anything in your life.

I've answered the question - I've done quite alot for the INS and have been 
doing so since 1995.

You need to answer for what you've done TO HARM THE INS.  You are the one who 
has alot
of explaining to do buddy, not me.

Cheers,
John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe Baptista
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:37 PM
Subject: [ga] John Palmer - it is time to come to account


and what a perfect place for this to happen but on the GA. An open forum.

Mr. Palmer - I am about to ask you a question on behalf of my TLD holders in your capacity as a root operator for the 
Public-dash-Root a.k.a. INAIC. And more generally in your capacity as a director of the TLDA. I understand this is a trade 
organization for TLD holders.
The TLDA has investigated what happened in the Netherlands. The official record 
of events as recorded by the TLDA has been posted.

Now considering the evidence provided what has been done to safe guard my TLD holders interests in their TLDs? I'm not the issue 
here John. But that question is the only question you need answer. But you won't.
John - I'm with Hugh on this. The hundreds of people who purchased into the TLDA / INAIC scam want a solution. Not diversionary Joe 
Baptista tactics. You are a director of the TLDA. You are also an insider of the INAIC / Public-dash-Root / Worldroot ... etc. ... 
my golly Miss Molly what do you have to say to my TLD holders? What exactly did they buy from you guys when they purchased a TLD. 
Was it just a lot of hot air?
Time to come to account ..

regards
joe baptista