Re: [ga] John Baxter says the INS is here. Indeed it is.

[<chris@xxxxxx>]

I have to tell you Thomas that when I wanted to learn more about what were then 
called by many, alt roots, Joe spent time to explain everything to me as did 
many others. So as far as whether Joe is helpful or not, I would say very 
helpful. He is straight to the point and doesn't have patience for people who 
are not being real about it though. Maybe that was the problem?

Chris McElroy, NameCritic, Inc.
http://www.seoserviceprovider.com/seoblog

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thomas Baxter 
  To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [ga] John Baxter says the INS is here. Indeed it is.


  Before, I thought you had good ideas for the I.N.S, mr Baptista, but I see 
now that you are
  part of the problem. Doing personal attacks like below solves no problems and 
all it does is
  give people a bad taste in their moths for the I.N.S.

  Sad, you and Karl at the TLDA both playing the same game with calling me 
palmer and calling
  palmer Baxter. 

  My opinion is that the TLDA is corrupt and not worth mentioning. The industry 
is rudderless, crooked
  TLDA and monpoly icann is all we have. 

  Of all the people I have met in the I.N.S, only Palmer helped me with  my TLD 
name servers. Too
  bad there is only one of him (in spite of joes contentions) - we need more 
people to be helpful
  like that instead of people calling others names and always fighting.

  Thoms


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:02:03 AM
  Subject: [ga] John Baxter says the INS is here. Indeed it is.

  John Baxter (or is that Palmer) - your new found nerviness concerns me.  I 
appreciate your support for the inclusive name space.  However the fact that 
you have been actively involved with an organization that has misrepresented 
the inclusive name space, bothers me. An organization that is run by one Herman 
Xennt, an associate of yours, who is currently under investigation by the very 
people you praise.  This concerns me.

  One of the nice things about the inclusive name space is that unlike ICANN it 
is community based.  And any fraud such as the type you have been associated 
with is quickly dealt with.  So maybe this new found support of yours has 
something to do with repentance?


  On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John Palmer 
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


    Yes, the ugly saga of ICANN. You know, the Inclusive Namespace is out there
    still, with roots

  Incorrect.  There  is an inclusive name space zone file published at least 
once per week.  However there is no official inclusive name space root or 
roots.  There are roots that claim to be inclusive name space compliant, but 
they all more or less fail testing.
    


    such as publicroot.com and worldroot.net and organizations like TLDA (just
    restarted, I hear)

  Lets hope this is not the beginning of another Baxter fraud.  As far as I 
know there is no root at publicroot.com.  I think you meant public-root.com 
where you are the G root operator.

  http://public-root.com/g-root.htm

  This root which is properly known as INAIC - www inaic.com - is under 
investigation by the TLDA, and the Dutch Public Prosecutors office,  if not 
others.  I don't think this is a good root for you to recommend to recommend 
and claim in any way they are an inclusive name space root.  At this time the 
TLDA has not ruled on them nor certified those roots.

  I will be opposed to certification because there are serious ethics issues 
with the people you provide root service too.  Lets consider this 
recommendation of Mr. Palmers a conflict of interest.

  Now worldroot.net is an run by the same Mr. Palmer who is recommending it.  
The worldroot.net I suspect is either a project just of Mr. Palmer's.  Its a 
private root of Mr. Palmer's.  I am concerned it is an attempt to brand a new 
root for his friend Herman Xennt to continue defrauding people.  I'm going to 
assume Mr. Palmer is genuine about the worldroot.net.

  But let us not forget John that you created a TLD in the worldroot recently 
called .BAX which is associated with a bogus administrator.  Recently we 
uncovered that you Mr. John Palmer were Mr. Thom Baxter and you attempted to be 
a member of the TLDA using a false identity.

  This was wrong.  John was shamed before the community, and appropriately so, 
for participating in the fraudulent sale of TLDs.  Just being associated with 
the fraudsters in the Netherlands is enough to sink any respect the community 
had for John.  But creating a false identity to gain entry into the TLDA was 
unethical.

  And from a technical perspective the worldroot.net root system fails 
compliance tests.  The root John runs is based on the INAIC.com root, which 
fails inclusive name space compatibility.

  People - if any of you want to join the inclusive name space the only place 
to do it is at www.tldainc.org - thats where the community is.  Thats where the 
people power that is the new internet is at.


    For all the griping about ICANN, I don't see many folks who are complaining
    about them come
    over and assist the INS institutions in gaining greater use and viability.

  You should come out of exile.  A lot has change since you were associated 
with the TLDA.
   
    Remember, we are still out here and have always been ready to serve as an
    alternative to
    ICANN. Perhaps those who want to see alternatives should come over and help.

  But be careful who you trust.  The inclusive name space is the new wild west 
of the internet.  Be careful of false peddlers of name space.  Is that not 
correct Mr. Baxter.

  regards
  joe baptista







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