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RE: [registrars] RE: PDP Dec 05: Reserved Names Working Group: response needed
- To: Marcus Faure <faure@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [registrars] RE: PDP Dec 05: Reserved Names Working Group: response needed
- From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:36:04 -0700
- Cc: "'Registrar Constituency'" <registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Ray Fassett'" <rfassett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Liz Williams'" <liz.williams@xxxxxxxxx>, "Peter Stevenson- Fabulous.com" <peter.stevenson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Reply-to: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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<div>Marcus,</div>
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Two ASCII letter strings at the second level is a different
reserved name group. There will be separate recommendations regarding those, and I would expect that they will continue to be reserved. Not sure how .com could be undone at this point. It's also interesting to note that even among ccTLDs such reservations do not exist in many cases.<BR><BR>Tim <BR></div>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid" webmail="1">-------- Original Message --------<BR>
Subject: Re: [registrars] RE: PDP Dec 05: Reserved Names
Working<BR>Group: response needed<BR>From: "Marcus Faure" <faure@xxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Mon, April 30, 2007 7:19 am<BR>To: "Peter Stevenson- Fabulous.com" <peter.stevenson@xxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "'Tim Ruiz'" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Registrar Constituency'"<BR><registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Ray Fassett'"<BR><rfassett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Liz Williams'" <liz.williams@xxxxxxxxx><BR><BR><PRE>Hello,
while I can see that damage has already been done, this should not
mean we deliberately increase the level of damage. The cc.com business
relies on confusing users and leaves them in the hands of a commercial
institution with no oversight, hence I see this as counterproductive
to the development of the DNS. I therefore suggest to stay with the
current restrictions and moreover ask to have the effect of cc.com
registrations on us investigated.
Yours,
Marcus
CORE Internet Council of Registrars
> I agree with Tim and believe that the reserving of gTLD strings from
> registration at a second level should be dropped for all new gTLDs.
>
>
>
> All new gTDL should be treated the same as each other.
>
>
>
> I do not believe or know of any adverse affects that would occur
from this
> being dropped
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Peter Stevenson
>
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> From: <A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=owner-registrars%40gnso.icann.org'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>owner-registrars<B></B>@gnso.icann.org</A>
> [mailto:<A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=owner-registrars%40gnso.icann.org'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>owner-registrars<B></B>@gnso.icann.org</A>] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:54 AM
> To: Registrar Constituency
> Cc: Ray Fassett; Liz Williams
> Subject: RE: [registrars] RE: PDP Dec 05: Reserved Names Working Group:
> response needed
>
>
>
> There are currently numerous ccTLDs that register at the third level
from
> .com.ccTLD, .net.ccTLD, and .org.ccTLD. There are no known/documented
> adverse affects that I am aware of.
>
>
>
> Currently every two letter ASCII country code is registered at the
second
> level in .com. A large number, if not all, are currently in use. In
fact,
> CentralNIC has made a thriving business of registering third level
names off
> of .us.com, .uk.com, and many others. There are no known/documented
adverse
> affects that I am aware of.
>
>
>
> Info.com, biz.com, travel.com, museum.com, jobs.com, and aero.com (as
> examples) are all currently registered with no known/documented adverse
> affects that I am aware of. In fact, all have been registered and in
use
> long before the corresponding gTLDs were even applied for and that
didn't
> seem to deter the subsequent applicants for those gTLD strings.
>
>
>
> With the upcoming introduction of possibly dozens of new gTLDs, many
> composed of generic strings, the number of legacy second level
registrations
> of these proposed gTLD strings in numerous other TLDs is only going
to grow.
> I am not aware of any documented evidence that it will create adverse
> affects.
>
>
>
> If the rule of reserving gTLD strings from registration at the
second level
> is maintained the list of reserved names will become unmanageable and
> needlessly restrict valuable and useful names from registration further
> restricting the name space. It will also create a growing imbalance
in the
> way various gTLDs are treated with regard to the names they are
allowed to
> accept registrations for.
>
>
>
> I would suggest that this reserved name requirement be dropped for
all new
> gTLDs, and that existing gTLDs be allowed to request these strings
to be
> unreserved and that ICANN would not unreasonably deny such requests.
>
>
> Tim Ruiz
> The Go Daddy Group, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [registrars] RE: PDP Dec 05: Reserved Names Working Group:
> response needed
> From: "Nevett, Jonathon" <<A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=jnevett%40networksolutions.com'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>jnevett<B></B>@networksolutions.com</A>>
> Date: Thu, April 26, 2007 8:09 am
> To: "Liz Williams" <<A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=liz.williams%40icann.org'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>liz.williams<B></B>@icann.org</A>>, "Registrar Constituency"
> <<A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=registrars%40gnso.icann.org'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>registrars<B></B>@gnso.icann.org</A>>
> Cc: "Ray Fassett" <<A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=rfassett%40employmedia.com'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>rfassett<B></B>@employmedia.com</A>>
>
>
>
>
> Registrars:
>
>
>
> Please see the following note from Liz Williams with the ICANN staff.
> Please provide any comments on this issue to Liz, Ray, and the list.
It
> doesn't make sense to try to get a formal constituency position in
less than
> a week.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liz Williams [mailto:<A onclick="Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=liz.williams%40icann.org'); return false;" href="https://email.secureserver.net/pcompose.php?aEmlPart=0&type=replyall&folder=INBOX&uid=94620#Compose";>liz.williams<B></B>@icann.org</A>]
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:56 AM
> To: Nevett, Jonathon ; Tony Holmes; David W. Maher; Philip Sheppard;
> Kristina Rosette; Milton Mueller
> Cc: Ray Fassett
> Subject: PDP Dec 05: Reserved Names Working Group: response needed
>
>
>
> Hello everyone
>
>
>
> Ray Fassett is chairing a subgroup of the Reserved Names Working
>
> Group and he's asked me to assist with getting some additional
>
> information from Constituencies. Could you please respond to Ray
>
> directly?
>
>
>
> "A sub group of the GNSO Reserved Names Working group is examining
>
> the current practice that requires Registry Operators to reserve from
>
> registration gTLD strings at the second level (and third level where
>
> applicable). The purpose of this work is to advance the progress of
>
> PDP 05, new TLD's. At this time, we would like to request your
>
> feedback to a possible recommendation that would allow for
>
> registration gTLD strings at the second level. For example, the
>
> current practice is that the .jobs Registry Operator requires
>
> permission from ICANN to unreserve travel.jobs.
>
>
>
> If this reservation and ICANN approval requirement did not exist for
>
> new TLD's, what adverse effects, if any, would this have upon the
>
> members of your constituency?
>
>
>
> Due the short time line the sub-group is working within to be of
>
> beneficial service to the work of PDP 05, we respectfully request
>
> feedback from your constituency no later than end of business day,
>
> Tuesday May 1, 2007."
>
>
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
>
> Liz
>
>
>
> .....................................................
>
>
>
> Liz Williams
>
> Senior Policy Counselor
>
> ICANN - Brussels
>
> +32 2 234 7874 tel
>
> +32 2 234 7848 fax
>
> +32 497 07 4243 mob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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