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RE: [registrars] FW: RRAs

  • To: "Nevett, Jonathon" <jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Registrars Constituency" <registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: RRAs
  • From: "Rob Hall" <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:20:47 -0000
  • Sender: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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  • Thread-topic: [registrars] FW: RRAs

The interesting thing is, they really can't turn anyone off.

The old agreement says we automatically agree to any new one after 30
days.  So in theory, we don't need to sign any new paper copy, and it
automatically becomes the new agreement.  

So we are all assumed to have signed it after 30 days, and be bound by
any new, approved agreement.

I would think Verisign would have a hard time arguing that they turned
someone off, when there is the clause saying the new agreement is
automatically put into place and in force.  The Registrar could argue
that the new agreement was in place. 

Of course, the catch 22 for Verisign, is that it has to be an ICANN
approved agreement. If they turn someone off for not signing, then they
have the problem of having to argue that the agreement is indeed not
approved.

I don't see how they could argue both sides (although lawyers have been
able to do so in the past <grin>).  

I think we may go with just letting the old agreements clause on any new
agreement taking effect automatically after 30 days.  Sure saves us a
ton of paperwork and courier costs.  I can't see any reason to sign new
paper agreement when clauses like that already exist in our existing
agreements.

Rob.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nevett, Jonathon
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:44 AM
To: Robert F. Connelly; Registrars Constituency
Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: RRAs

Adrian/Bob:  Thanks for your notes.  Much appreciated.  Hopefully, we
will see some progress in the next couple of days.  The good news is
that ICANN informed me last night that VeriSign has committed NOT to
turn any registrars off while we work through this issue.  Thanks again.
Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert F. Connelly
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:08 AM
To: Registrars Constituency
Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: RRAs

At 09:56 AM 1/4/2007 Thursday  +1100, Adrian Kinderis wrote:
>Although we have made comment to Verisign on the matter, the fact that 
>some of the "bigger" Registrars are prepared to speak out (when you
have
>the potentially the most to lose) is beneficial to the industry and to 
>the constituency members as a whole.

Dear Jon: We share in Adrian's expression of appreciation for your
efforts.  Regards, BobC








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