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RE: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model - proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg

  • To: "'Tim Ruiz'" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model - proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg
  • From: "Jay Westerdal" <jwesterdal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:52:35 -0700
  • Cc: <registrars@xxxxxxxx>
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  • Sender: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I would suggest that the solution is a fee to delete within 5 days.
Something like 75 cents. For those that registering 100,000 domains in a day
it would curb their appetite from trying them out for free. And for those
that made a true mistake it would allow them delete with a small processing
fee. Since typos happen, it may be more prudent to allow registrars that
successful keeps domains longer then 5 days to get a ratio of free deletes.

I would suggest 1 free delete per 200 domains successfully and newly
registered longer then 5 days. I would love to see some more discussion
about this and then by Friday I would like to propose a formal motion along
these lines.

The abuse is huge. Over 750K domains were registered in one day the other
week! Then almost all were deleted in the 5 day free abuse period.

Jay Westerdal
Name Intelligence, Inc.
http://www.nameintelligence.com  

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 9:58 AM
To: Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model -
proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg

Bruce,

The add grace period abuse needs to be addressed separately. I see no
benefit in dilluting that issue by labeling it a business model.

This practice has broad and complicated implications that we would have
to resolve first, IP infringement for example.

I really think the AGP is a seperate discussion.

Tim
 


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model -
> proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg
> From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, May 29, 2005 9:44 pm
> To: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> The dominant model for domain names across com/net/org/biz/info etc,
> consists of registering a domain name for a fixed fee for one year, up
> to 10 years.  There is no registry discount for multiple years.   There
> is a grace period of 5 days, where a name can be registered, and then
> deleted for a refund.  This is presently being used for domain name
> buyers that want to attempt to measure the traffic associated with a
> particular name, and then decide whether to keep.  It is effectively
> being treated as a 5 day free trial, rather than a grace period to
> account for registration mistakes.
> 
> I believe it is time that we saw some changes in the dominant model -
> towards a choice of models that match the characteristics of different
> markets.
> 
> Here are some example markets:
> (1) Corporates - they want to register a name for up to 10 years, and
> tend to operate their own DNS and hosting infrastructure.   The current
> model suits this market best.
> 
> (2) Web hosting companies - they want to bundle a domain name with
> hosting.  A model where a name can be registered for a 30 day period,
> with auto-renewal might suit their business model.
> 
> (3) Domain name owners that monetise names via pay-per-click traffic.  A
> model where there is a longer "free trial" period may be of interest.
> 
> I propose that we have a workshop at Luxembourg - similar to the
> workshop that proposed different approaches to resolving contention for
> deleted names - that invites ideas on different domain name models that
> could be offered at the registry.  These would be new registry services
> and would need approval from ICANN, and would need to be available to
> all registrars.
> 
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin




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