RE: [registrars] knowing when to fold 'em

[Paul Goldstone <paulg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim,

That's true, Go Daddy is getting close too - good for you!  Wow. :)  I 
didn't think it was anyone's idea but ICANN's.  However, I don't agree 
with it because after a registrar reaches $2MM, the remaining 
registrars will pay for their portion of ICANN expenses.

~Paul

At 04:22 AM 10/15/2004 -0700, Tim Ruiz wrote:
>Paul,
> 
>If there is any thought that the $2MM cap was Go Daddy's idea, ICANN can verify that it definately was not.
>
>Tim
>   
>From: "Paul Goldstone" <paulg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>Date: Thu, October 14, 2004 3:30 pm 
>To: "Mike Lampson" <lampson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>Cc: "'Registrars List'" <Registrars@xxxxxxxx>
>
>They also include the following clause:
>
>"...in no case will any registrar contribute in excess of $2MM"
>
>So when a registrar hits around 8 million domains, anything above that 
>is at no charge.  There's only one registrar getting anywhere close to 
>that figure but you never know.... it's something to strive for! ;)
>
>~Paul
>
>At 04:06 PM 10/14/2004 -0400, Mike Lampson wrote: 
>>From: Thomas Barrett - EnCirca 
>>> I assume all one needs to do is to stop using the batch pool by November 
>>1. 
>> 
>>That is not all.  You must also send in a letter *each quarter* certifying 
>>that you qualify for forgiveness based on the 2 criteria that Rick has 
>>listed (see below).  If you forget to send in the letter, no forgiveness 
>>that quarter. 
>> 
>>I'm not sure if an e-mail notification to ICANN counts.  We're not taking 
>>chances however and, for tracking purposes, are sending in our certification 
>>by Registered Mail. 
>> 
>>I too am unsure if ICANN will ask for a report from each Registry or only 
>>from VeriSign.  My guess is that they will initially invoice us based on our 
>>certification letters (or lack thereof) and check with the Registries after 
>>the fact to verify that we are being truthful. 
>> 
>>_Mike 
>> 
>> 
>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rick Wesson 
>>Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:39 PM 
>>To: Thomas Barrett - EnCirca 
>>Cc: 'Registrars List' 
>>Subject: RE: [registrars] knowing when to fold 'em 
>> 
>> 
>>On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Thomas Barrett - EnCirca wrote: 
>> 
>>>  Rick, 
>>> 
>>> I assume all one needs to do is to stop using the batch pool by November 
>>1. 
>>> Or, is it before the last month of the quarter? 
>>> 
>>> What is missing from the new fees is how ICANN determines if a registrar 
>>is 
>>> participating in the batch pool. 
>> 
>>the wording is a bit vague but the gist of it is that a registrar asks for 
>>forgiveness one month after they have stopped using the batch pool. 
>>forgiveness [this part is vague] is aparently applied quarterly. 
>> 
>>...from the budget 
>>Registrars wishing to apply for relief from the fee will submit a letter 
>>to ICANN prior to the end of each quarter. The letter will state that the 
>>registrar: 
>> 
>>   o has fewer than 350,000 names under management, and 
>> 
>>   o has submitted fewer than 200 attempted "add" commands per successful, 
>>     "net add" command during the preceding month. (Note: this statistic may 
>>be 
>>     altered on a quarter-by-quarter basis as a result of consultation 
>>     with the registrar and registries constituencies.) 
>> 
>> 
>>welcome to the new ICANN. 
>> 
>> 
>>-rick