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RE: [registrars] knowing when to fold 'em

  • To: Paul Goldstone <paulg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [registrars] knowing when to fold 'em
  • From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 04:22:09 -0700
  • Cc: "'Registrars List'" <Registrars@xxxxxxxx>, Mike Lampson <lampson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Reply-to: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Sender: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<div>Paul,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>If there is any thought that the $2MM cap was Go Daddy's idea, ICANN
can verify that it definately&nbsp;was not.<BR><BR>Tim</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT:
blue 2px solid"><BR>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: RE:
[registrars] knowing when to fold 'em<BR>From: "Paul Goldstone"
&lt;paulg@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Thu, October 14, 2004 3:30
pm<BR>To: "Mike Lampson" &lt;lampson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Cc:
"'Registrars List'" &lt;Registrars@xxxxxxxx&gt;<BR><BR>They also
include the following clause:<BR><BR>"...in no case will any registrar
contribute in excess of $2MM"<BR><BR>So when a registrar hits around 8
million domains, anything above that <BR>is at no charge. &nbsp;There's
only one registrar getting anywhere close to <BR>that figure but you
never know.... it's something to strive for! ;)<BR><BR>~Paul<BR><BR>At
04:06 PM 10/14/2004 -0400, Mike Lampson wrote:<BR>&gt;From: Thomas
Barrett - EnCirca<BR>&gt;&gt; I assume all one needs to do is to stop
using the batch pool by November<BR>&gt;1.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;That is not
all. &nbsp;You must also send in a letter *each quarter*
certifying<BR>&gt;that you qualify for forgiveness based on the 2
criteria that Rick has<BR>&gt;listed (see below). &nbsp;If you forget
to send in the letter, no forgiveness<BR>&gt;that
quarter.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I'm not sure if an e-mail notification to ICANN
counts. &nbsp;We're not taking<BR>&gt;chances however and, for tracking
purposes, are sending in our certification<BR>&gt;by Registered
Mail.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I too am unsure if ICANN will ask for a report
from each Registry or only<BR>&gt;from VeriSign. &nbsp;My guess is that
they will initially invoice us based on our<BR>&gt;certification letters
(or lack thereof) and check with the Registries after<BR>&gt;the fact to
verify that we are being
truthful.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;_Mike<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;-----Original
Message-----<BR>&gt;From:
owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt;[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Rick Wesson<BR>&gt;Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:39
PM<BR>&gt;To: Thomas Barrett - EnCirca<BR>&gt;Cc: 'Registrars
List'<BR>&gt;Subject: RE: [registrars] knowing when to fold
'em<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, Thomas Barrett -
EnCirca wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Rick,<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;
I assume all one needs to do is to stop using the batch pool by
November<BR>&gt;1.<BR>&gt;&gt; Or, is it before the last month of the
quarter?<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; What is missing from the new fees is
how ICANN determines if a registrar<BR>&gt;is<BR>&gt;&gt; participating
in the batch pool.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;the wording is a bit vague but the
gist of it is that a registrar asks for<BR>&gt;forgiveness one month
after they have stopped using the batch pool.<BR>&gt;forgiveness [this
part is vague] is aparently applied quarterly.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;...from
the budget<BR>&gt;Registrars wishing to apply for relief from the fee
will submit a letter<BR>&gt;to ICANN prior to the end of each quarter.
The letter will state that the<BR>&gt;registrar:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp;
o has fewer than 350,000 names under management, and<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;
&nbsp; o has submitted fewer than 200 attempted "add" commands per
successful,<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; "net add" command during the
preceding month. (Note: this statistic may<BR>&gt;be<BR>&gt; &nbsp;
&nbsp; altered on a quarter-by-quarter basis as a result of
consultation<BR>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; with the registrar and registries
constituencies.)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;welcome to the new
ICANN.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;-rick </BLOCKQUOTE>




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