RE: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming

[Paul Stahura <stahura@xxxxxxxx>]

I still would like to see the email to which you refer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Kruk [mailto:chrisk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:16 AM
To: Paul Stahura; Larry Erlich; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming 

Paul,

I was not implying that DROA is using eNom to perform transfers.
I was voicing my concern over a deceptive business practice that
effects the customers of Registrars and the reputation of this
industry in general. This is no joke.


  -Chris






At 10:30 AM 3/9/2004, Paul Stahura wrote:
>Has anyone heard DROA is actually Osama Bin Laden?
>
>Chris, why don't you send the email you speak of to the list?
>We should all be aware of it, or are you just creating one of
>the many urban legends surrounding DROA?
>
>Regardless, in case you do not already know the following fact
>(I know some registrars do):
>
>DROA is not using eNom to perform transfers.
>
>Has anyone heard they are using Chris Kruk and DomainPeople?
>:)
>
>
>Paul
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Kruk
>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:04 AM
>To: Larry Erlich; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
>Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [registrars] Domain renewal spamming
>
>We receive complaints from confused angry customers almost daily regarding
>this. Has
>anyone heard about how they send out an email asking to visit a link to
>confirm the
>customer's correct email address? The link is actually a transfer
>confirmation. We are
>seriously considering corrective action on behalf of our customers.
>
>I find it hard to believe a Registrar is not aware of this type of
>deceptive use of their DNR
>Reseller facilities.
>
>
>   -Chris
>
>
>At 10:27 AM 3/9/2004, Larry Erlich wrote:
> >Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Domain Registry of America ...
> > >
> > > Looks like its that time of year. I came home and found one of their
>posts
> > > waiting for me.
> > >
> > > This is one example of the kind of fraud we could significantly
reduce.
> > >
> > > Anyone from ENOM want to claim DROA isn't on the wrong side of the
>ethical
> > > practices line?
> > >
> > > Eric
> >
> >There is more to this story. As you can imagine,
> >because of the similar name,
> >we get a fair amount of calls from people that
> >want their $85 or $25 refunded for a transfer that
> >doesn't go through. It seems that they immediately charge
> >a credit card upon placing the order and only refund
> >money if specifically asked and after a waiting period. At
> >least this is what I am told by their "customers".
> >
> >Larry Erlich
> >
> >http://www.DomainRegistry.com
> >
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