RE: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February 1st 2004:-(

["Michael D. Palage" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Jean-Michel and others:

Paul Twomey notified the ICANN Board today that he was contacted by PIR and
informed that they would be addressing this issue in a communication to him
which should be sent over the next several days.

I have received communications from a number of registrars in connection
with this topic. Although I have not yet had the opportunity to discuss this
issue with any representative of PIR, I am cautiously optimistic that PIR
will take these concerns under advisement and proactively address them.

I understand the importance that this decision has on certain registrar
operations, but believe the most prudent course of action would be to await
PIR's communication prior to taking any further action. I believe the action
to date by those impacted registrars and their customers has been both
constructive and responsible.

I hope this information proves useful.

Best regards,

Michael D. Palage





-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jean-Michel
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:05 AM
To: tbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Registrars Constituency'
Subject: Re: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February 1st
2004:-(


I don't think Verisign will ever cancel the IDN domains in .comm and .net.
They successfully migrated them from RACE to punycode. So for that
reason I would like to see PIR doing the same , so we stay consistent
with our customers and the domain industry image has a lot to loose with
this PIR decision.

Yesterday, I sent an official letter to Paul Twomey cc to PIR asking
them to hold off the deletion and to discuss this issue. That letter was
the result of a meeting here in Tokyo of ALL registrars concerned with
that decision and also some big resellers. And we are all agree that
will be very bad for our industry and market.
So I would like to see like Bob already tried to  get from this list
more reaction and I was hoping the RC would put the pressure on PIR in
order to migrate those legacy domains to the new standards, because it
feasible Verisign did it :-)

Regards,

Jean-Michel

tbarrett wrote:

> Bob,
>
> This is worth discussing, since we are receiving inquiries about
> in-coming transfers of com/net IDN domains.
>
> Is there any reason a registrant should transfer their existing
> domains to another registrar or will they end up being cancelled by
> Verisign-GRS in a few months anyway?
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Robert F.
>     Connelly
>     *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2004 8:45 PM
>     *To:* Registrars Constituency
>     *Cc:* David W. Maher; David W. Maher; Bruce Beckwith
>     *Subject:* [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February
>     1st 2004:-(
>     *Importance:* High
>
>     Dear Registrars:
>
>     [This is an update:  Updated items in square brackets.]
>
>     [Excom has requested a teleconference between registrars and PIR.]
>
>     [Netsol has posted a note saying that they will not continue to
>     support IDNs in .com and .net.  See note, attached at the end of
>     this posting. Verisign Japan has made a simper posting.]
>
>     You may wish for me to take this thread to a separate list.
>
>     On or about 23 December 2003, PIR announced on their web site
>     their intention to delete all idn.org domains which were in the
>     domains they migrated from Verisign.  I am told that it was not
>     announced in the form of an Email to registrars.  I know that I
>     was advised by telephone just before Christmas.  The announcement
>     says that PIR will delete all RACE encoded .org domains --
>     bq--xxxxxxx.org -- on 1 February 2004.   Here is the URL:
>
>
http://www.pir.org/registrars/registrar_relations/announcements/index_html
>
>
>     [The above web site available only from registered IP address
>     using ID and password.]
>
>     The Registrars in Japan are justly concerned about such an
>     eventuality.  A concerted action by registrars is in the making.
>     Unfortunately, December 23rd was a holiday, the Emperor's
>     Birthday, and the 26th was the last day of business until 5
>     January.  It has taken a few days for the realization to hit home,
>     but hit it has, and hard!!!
>
>     I think I remember that Register.com, Tucows, perhaps eNom and
>     other registrars not domiciled in Japan also made registrations
>     during the so called "test bed" landrush starting 9 November
>     2000.  Was Netaka a registrar at that time, also?  I think some of
>     you also made registrations in Korean and Traditional and
>     Simplified Chinese.  All of these .org domains are scheduled for
>     the guillotine in 30 days;-(
>
>     Question:  Is this matter of sufficient general concern to the
>     Consistency to vet the issue on this List? Or should we create a
>     separate list?
>
>     Regards, BobC, speaking with my PSI-Japan, Inc. hat on;-}
>
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>     >
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>     >
>     > The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has also announced
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>     encoded, from
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