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RE: [ga] List Rules - Version 4

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  • Subject: RE: [ga] List Rules - Version 4
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  • Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:11:57 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Dr.&nbsp;Dierker&nbsp;and all,</P>
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<P>&nbsp; Free speach or expression can rarely be abused, see US</P>
<P>supreme court decisions accordingly.&nbsp; It cannot be abused</P>
<P>by simple choice of words/terms.&nbsp; If someone steals, I am going to</P>
<P>say "you stole, and are a thief".&nbsp; This form of expression is perfictly</P>
<P>exceptable in any ligitimate parlance or forum&nbsp;I can imagine.&nbsp; It however</P>
<P>may not be exceptable to overly sensitive or emotionally disturbed</P>
<P>individuals or groups of same, i.e. "Gagles".&nbsp; Of course sociologists</P>
<P>have by a vast majority whom have testified in court to such, agree</P>
<P>that such groups or&nbsp; "Gagles" often times enumerate their self</P>
<P>unrecognized condition quite well, but none the less our outside</P>
<P>the norm by a significant degree.<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Debbie Garside <DEBBIE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Aug 2, 2007 12:26 PM <BR>To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: RE: [ga] List Rules - Version 4 <BR><BR><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv="Content-Type"><ZZZMETA content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1561" name="GENERATOR"></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=067332617-02082007>Debbie</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Hugh Dierker<BR><B>Sent:</B> 02 August 2007 16:53<BR><B>To:</B> ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ga] List Rules - Version 4<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I think the problem here is that what we really want to nail down is the intent of the poster. (and therefor the result)</DIV>
<DIV>Since we are not children here we have to make room for the occasional and possibly in bad taste foul language. Actually very rare here and usually humorous or to prove some other point or to shock into gaining attention.</DIV>
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<DIV>So I think it would be fair to say; "not using what may be perceived as clearly intended to be offensive and/or disruptive language."</DIV>
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<DIV>Keeping in mind that someone has to complain. Also I think a monitor would easily look at the track record and matters like name calling as opposed to fact stating.</DIV>
<DIV>IE. "Eric is a thief" versus "Eric took that money and I do not think it belonged to him".</DIV>
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<DIV>Bottom line though is that we are guarding against language which does in fact offend and disrupt. And that has to be sent to the monitor and then possibly the chair, in which case, probably cooling off would take place and we are all better for it.</DIV>
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<DIV>But if someone is intentionally irritating and disrupting the list - she is going to get the boot because this is not an exercise matt for free speech abuse.</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric<BR><BR><BR><B><I>Debbie Garside &lt;debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Hi Jeff<BR><BR>Responses in line:<BR><BR>&gt; First and again, please trim/discontinue CC'ing already <BR>&gt; subscribed GA list members as you yourself have mentioned <BR>&gt; several times, as it is incredibly rude and a waste of band <BR>&gt; width. This will be the 14th time I have trimmed them for <BR>&gt; you. So again please practice what you preach.<BR><BR>Thank you for the reminder. It will take me a while to get used to the new<BR>rules instead of just clicking reply all - a habit hard to break. :-)<BR><BR>&gt; Second, about Version 4 of the Rule..<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Rule:<BR>&gt; "not using what may be perceived as offensive or <BR>&gt; inflammatory language"<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ?: what is the definition of the terms "inflammatory <BR>&gt; language" in context of these proposed set of rules?<BR><BR>&gt; ...[original message trimmed]<BR><BR>&gt; Therefore, and as such, I oppose this rule as currently stated...<BR><BR>Would you like to re-draft this particular paragraph or would the following<BR>suffice?<BR><BR>---<BR><BR>- not using what may be perceived as offensive language<BR><BR>---<BR><BR>Best<BR><BR>Debbie<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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