Re: [ga] List Rules (as Chair)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dr. Dierker and all,

  I see a few problems here that are a matter of subjective
reasoning.  As follows:

"The purpose of the GA list is to allow discussion between GA members on

  GA matters. It is not itself a decision-making body. The GA members
may, however, formulate such   collective opinions into consensus
documents as designated by its members for submission to other bodies."

If the GA is not a decision making body, than what's the point?
Why bother to become a member?  Doesn't seem like any GA
I have ever served on.  ALL General Assemblies I ever served
on were indeed, "a decision making body".  Why have elections
for any GA position or motion?

"(b) The GA may meet once a year, if possible in conjunction with
regularly
scheduled meetings of the Board. To the maximum extent practicable, all
meetings should be available for online attendance as well  as physical
attendance.

  (c) The costs of GA meetings shall be the responsibility of the GNSO,
which may
levy an equitable,   cost-based fee on GA attendees to recoup those
costs. There
shall be no other fees required to participate in the GA."

This basically makes GA members surfs or slaves of a sort and therefore
nearly powerless which is useless.  It is also at a minimum an
abrogation
of the MOU, if not an outright violation of same.  I am ashamed to
even see it being a consideration of any sort.  >:(


And further:
3. POSTING RULES

- not indulging in personal attacks, insults or slander

  - not using offensive language

How is "offensive language" defined.  What definition of "offensive
language".

What is a definition of an "insult" and how does one prove slander on
a mailing list?

"If the identity behind some email address set is challenged, the list
monitor may ask the challenged party   for proof of identity. The list
monitor has discretion in deciding
whether to take action upon a challenge,   and to decide what proof of
identity is
acceptable in each particular case. A notarized copy of a civil
identification
(such as a driver's license or passport) is always acceptable."

  The above violates civil state statutes in my state of texas.  In fact

the Texas AG's office recommends I as a Texas citizen notify their
office
of such information is ask for by any non law enforcement agency or
person.  By law, I cannot comply with this.  Further in 24 states this
rule would be in violation of those states civil statutes which have
changed in only the past year.  So I ask, and strongly suggest this
rule be stricken or *modified* in accordance to, or with same. It
is also in violation with the EU's new privacy regs., which I posted
to Dr. Dierker and this list forum as an FYI.


Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    So in our quest to make the List Rules available to all, Debbie
> came up with a wonderful solution. I think this takes care of
> complaints, and maximizes capability for involvement.
>   It would appear that our biggest "problem" is any one caring,
> because the rules are so mondane and generally acceptable to everyone.
>
>   Here is something really cool;
> http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules.htm

Regards,
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