RE: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Vint. I realised (thanks to Stephane). 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vint Cerf [mailto:vint@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 03 July 2007 16:52
> To: 'Debbie Garside'; jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Hugh Dierker'
> Cc: 'ga'; 'icann board address'; 'icann staff'
> Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN
> 
> .IE is for Ireland, not .EI 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Garside [mailto:debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:43 AM
> To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Hugh Dierker'
> Cc: 'ga'; 'icann board address'; 'icann staff'; 'vinton g. cerf'
> Subject: RE: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN
> 
> Hi Jeff
> 
> I should just make one or two corrections for you that I 
> missed in my last
> email:
> 
> .IR is the Country Code for Iran
> 
> .EI is the Country Code for Ireland (EIRE)
> 
> Ireland has never formed part of any other country.
> 
> Northern Ireland forms part of the UK and last I heard they 
> had devolved to an Assembly.  Technically, as they are 
> geographically removed from the UK mainland and now (since 
> May 2007) have a devolved administration they MAY be eligible 
> for a Country Code.  However, given the history of the NI 
> Assembly, it is, perhaps, a little too soon to be counting 
> our chickens! In any case, personally FWIW, I don't like the 
> thought of NI getting a Country Code.  I would like to see 
> them under .EI  
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Debbie
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> > Sent: 04 July 2007 05:05
> > To: Hugh Dierker
> > Cc: ga; icann board address; icann staff; vinton g. cerf
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Haiti the Internet and ICANN
> > 
> > Dr. Dierker and all,
> > 
> >  Well let se now, the Vatican has it's own ccTLD or some call it an 
> > sTLD = Special TLD, yet no other religious deity has one.  
> Isn't that 
> > a bit odd?  Also Scotland applied for a ccTLD and was 
> denied, remember 
> > those debates?  However Ireland has it's own ccTLD, doesn't that 
> > dichotomy strike you as rather odd as well?  And .Iq has 
> been assigned 
> > to Iraq yet has no functioning NIC or NOC, even odder still?
> > And now we have the dubiously illustrious Haiti getting 
> it's own ccTLD 
> > granted by the omnipotent ICANN Bod.
> > 
> >   I am very sure the Scots are not very pleased and may now 
> start to 
> > wonder if the Vatican is not happy with how they practice 
> Catholicism 
> > or that ICANN has all along viewed them as blasphemers in 
> comparison 
> > to the peoples of Haiti.  Now I am a Jew, and even in the new 
> > testament we are gods chosen people, yet ICANN has not yet 
> seem fit to 
> > bestow upon us our own ccTLD or sTLD.  Why is that I wonder, is it 
> > because we have offended our Catholic brothers in some very 
> egregious 
> > way, or are we not deserving of such a bestowance by the omnipotent 
> > ICANN?
> > Are we worse than the world recognized criminal state of 
> Haiti?  Is it 
> > because we are allied in the state of Israel in a struggle against 
> > those whom would seek to destroy us and the state of 
> Israel?  If it is 
> > any of these reasons why than we ask for the aid of the holy se for 
> > his assistance in recognizing us to the omnipotent Bod of ICANN to 
> > grant us our deliverance and allow us our own ccTLD or sTLD.
> > 
> >   So now Dr. Dierker, are you and Debbie beginning to get the drift 
> > here, or need I go further?  Is this not an illustration of 
> why ICANN 
> > Directors desperately need to be directly elected by any and all 
> > interested stakeholders, users and/or registrants?  I mean 
> really now, 
> > Scotland isn't deserving of a ccTLD and Haiti is?  England is 
> > deserving of 2 ccTLD's, .GB and .UK and Ireland with .IR and yet 
> > again, Scotland is not?  Come on now folks, wake up and smell the 
> > coffee or tea if you prefer, and recognize ICANN sense it's 
> inception 
> > practices Selective Censorship in one of it most ugly 
> forms.  Any form 
> > of imposed Censorship is wrong.  I reject such behavior or 
> concept, I 
> > hope all of you will also.
> > 
> > Hugh Dierker wrote:
> > 
> > >    I have seen too many instances where it was the massive
> > influx and
> > > outflux of information that actually changed a rather dire
> > situation.
> > > Information Technology should target areas of destitution 
> and civil 
> > > wrong (don't ask; Soviet Union, South Africa, Vietnam and Womens 
> > > rights throughout the Middle East) Also I do not believe 
> it is the 
> > > call of non-transparent and non-representative
> > organizations to decide
> > > when and where we engage in embargos of information - next
> > they would
> > > embargo all red states/or would that be blue? Education(IT), 
> > > medicines, food and water should not be part of a bargaining chip.
> > >
> > >   But it is fun to sit around and decide who should and
> > should not get
> > > the internet. I would knock out all politicians and 
> parties but not 
> > > individuals and then of course all religions, except mine.
> > >
> > >   Eric
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
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