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RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar

  • To: "Paul Stahura" <paul.stahura@xxxxxxxx>, "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, "Bashar Al-Abdulhadi" <bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar
  • From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:39:17 -0400
  • Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • In-reply-to: <0584E286D9C3C045B61DAB692193170B142ED006@yew2.wou3.local>
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  • Thread-topic: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar

No Paul I didn't.  And I didn't even consider implications for VeriSign.

Chuck Gomes
 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Stahura [mailto:paul.stahura@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:30 PM
> To: Gomes, Chuck; Danny Younger; Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar
> 
> Chuck, I think you know the answer.  
> 
> I think it's obvious that you want to have them all deleted 
> so that VeriSign will regain its monopoly in the drop.  
> WLS/CLS anyone?
> As we all know, monopolies are always good for consumers  :>)
> 
> Registrars have contracts with registrants.  That agreement 
> is called the registration agreement.  Those registration 
> agreements have been approved by ICANN during the 
> accreditation and re-accreditation process.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:22 AM
> To: Danny Younger; Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar
> 
> I wonder how many registrars have clauses similar to this?
> 
> Chuck Gomes
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:48 PM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck; Bashar Al-Abdulhadi
> > Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ga] keeping expired domains by a registrar
> > 
> > Chuck,
> > 
> > One of the problems that we registrants are facing stems 
> from Terms of 
> > Service Agreements deliberately designed to circumvent the Expired 
> > Domain Deletion Policy.  For example, consider this clause in the 
> > Network Solutions Service Agreement version 7.7.7:
> > 
> > "Should you not renew the domain name during any applicable grace 
> > period, you agree that unless you notify us to the contrary 
> we may, in 
> > our sole discretion, renew and transfer the domain name to Network 
> > Solutions or a third party on your behalf (such a transaction is 
> > hereinafter referred to as a "Direct Transfer"), and your 
> failure to 
> > so notify us after the domain name expiration date shall constitute 
> > your consent to such a Direct Transfer."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > Bashar,
> > >  
> > > Registrars should be able to address this better than me
> > because they
> > > work with it everyday, but the clause that I thought was 
> especially 
> > > relevant was the following:
> > >  
> > > "3.7.5.3 In the absence of extenuating circumstances (as 
> defined in 
> > > Section
> > > 3.7.5.1 above), a domain name must be deleted within
> > > 45 days of either the
> > > registrar or the registrant terminating a registration agreement."
> > > Extenuating circumstances are clearly spelled out in
> > Section 3.7.5.1
> > > and any that are not listed must be approved by ICANN.  So
> > my question
> > > is this: if no extenuating circumstances exist, may a
> > registrar keep a
> > > name longer than
> > > 45 days before deleting it and still be in compliance with this 
> > > policy?
> > >  
> > > Chuck Gomes
> > 
> > 
> > 
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