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Re: [ga] RE: Whois more in detail
Hmmm. I didn't know that was a requirement. When I pay someone I never
looked to see what the receiver's address and phone number are or even if
they are there. Does it do that each time you send money through a website
using paypal?
Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
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From: "Theresa Taylor" <theresa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Whois more in detail
Paypal does at this time but only if you have a merchant account.
Theresa Taylor
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Subject: Re: [ga] RE: Whois more in detail
Hi Roberto and thanks. I am open to hearing more suggestions about how
else
this can be achieved and think it a proper topic for this list to tackle.
But for now, the whois would and could be a "quick fix" until a better
solution is worked out. There are several ways to go about improving trust
from a consumer perspective and to protect consumers.
1. PayPal and Credit Card Companies as well as other financial processing
companies could implement some sort of requirement that in order to use
their services you must have valid contact info readily available to
buyer.
It could be achieved by making it a part of the signup process for their
services where the contact info is sent from them to each buyer who buys
from a particular website. Even after the fact would be better than what
we
have now.
2. Trust Certificates have so far been ineffective, but maybe they can be
improved.
3. Last but not least is the whois.
Any other suggestions or comments on those?
Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Paul Stahura'" <stahura@xxxxxxxx>; "'kidsearch'"
<kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Jeff Williams'" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
"'Dominik Filipp'" <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'icann whois'" <whois-comments@xxxxxxxxx>; "'ga'" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [ga] RE: Whois more in detail
Paul Stahura wrote:
not yet, the aren't (domain name registrants), but someday...
You raise an interesting point. I have been convinced for years that this
was going to happen *eventually*.
However, we might wonder what is the timeframe that we are talking about.
Also, putting this in context, I would argue that domain name registrants
of
tomorrow might be more informed than the non-registrant users of today.
Today it is easy to fall prey of scammers, and therefore it would not
hurt
if the current rules (of today) were more protective of the average
inexperieced user than what would be reasonable to have in a mature
market
where all actors have some degree of experience.
All this to say that I am in favour of some form of control of the
commercial use of the internet, in terms of providing to the
inexperienced
counterpart some degree of assurance of the trustworthness (sp?) of the
commercial operator (I hate to limit the case only to commercial sellers
and
individual buyers, there is much more going on on the net).
WHere I have doubts is whether this should be something built in at a
lower
level like the WhoIs, versus some self-disciplined effort among content
providers.
So, today, for the scenario we are in, with a huge mass of inexperienced
users, we might need solutions that are different from the solutions we
might need in the future, in a more mature situation.
(usual disclaimer, this is only my personal opinion)
Cheers,
Roberto
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