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RE: [ga] A Question
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- Subject: RE: [ga] A Question
- From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:09:55 -0800 (PST)
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I am not getting it. Just what is a consumer entitled to that she is being denied? I am all for letting ultimate consumer/users have a leg up on large speculating interests, but I just cannot find the logic of giving them a right to it. And i especially cannot see subsidizing in any manner midlevel speculators. Free enterpise and competition may seem harsh but it is the basis for ICANN running anything.
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Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Karl,
I don't understand what the costs have to do with the domain tasting.
The reason of the tasting has been known over several months, if no
years. It is the 5-day Add Grace Period (AGP) during which 'registered'
domain names can be published (and tasted) but are not paid for a dime.
After insufficient pay-per-click revenue the registration costs are
fully refunded to the registrar involved in it.
AGP has significant conceptual flaws allowing suspect registrars to
legally proceed with the practice. According to the webhosting.info the
four currently fastest growing registrars are
GoDaddy, Domaindoorman, Belgiumdomains and Capitoldomains out of which
the last three (except for GoDaddy) are the well-known tasters; just
compare their gain/delete ratio or read articles about them on the
Internet. We could rather call them 'the fastest growing domain
tasters'. It's a shame that those three registrars are still
ICANN-accredited.
As far as I know there is just a proposal from the non-commercial
constituency sent to ICANN for further consideration, but I could't find
any response on it. I also sent some opinions and ideas on icann-alac
forum.
I see the problem in the persiting flawed AGP concept, not in costs,
fees or whatever responses from registries. The conceptual redefinition
(or, better, getting rid) of the AGP model is the ICANN's primary
responsibility to deal with. That's why I'm asking for the current
solution status of 'the domain abuse of last months'.
Dominik
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Karl Auerbach
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:05 PM
To: Dominik Filipp
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] A Question
Dominik Filipp wrote:
> does anyone know whether the 'domain tasting' topic will be discussed
> at the meeting in Sao Paulo? Or, what is its current status at ICANN?
As has always been the case, this discussion can not proceed until we
have data from registries regarding how much it costs to actually
service a domain name registration transaction.
I have estimated the cost to be less than $0.03 per name per year.
Unless we know these numbers we really can not answer the question
whether this free ride for speculators is being made on the backs of the
intended beneficiaries of ICANN's regulation - the paying, full-term
consumers of domain names.
--karl--
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